WWE TV and PPV Talk 2012, Only 10 days into the new year!

So, how about that Brodus Clay, eh?

Oh, in case you missed it, announced for this year's Hall of Fame are Edge and the Four Horseman (including Ric Flair). I suppose I can wrap my head around Flair getting a second induction as part of the group, but it'll be interesting to see if his TNA status let's him paticipate.

I could go out on a limb and speculate that this might be WWE's attempt to rescue Flair from the fool of himself he's making on TNA programming.

I know it's not like a traditional HOF with a 5-year wait, but WWE really seems to love Edge. I think they even had him in their "top 5 Superstars of all time" Classic feature.

Sure, he was a main-event guy from roughly late 2005 until he retired last year, but it seems a bit much.

I suppose the kayfabe argument for Edge being in the "top 5" is that he held 11 World titles, won King of the Ring, Money in the Bank, Royal Rumble, elimination chamber matches, main evented Wrestlemania, etc.

But yeah, he was a top guy for a solid five years or so, had some successful top feuds, did draw some money and ratings, and I would consider to be a top guy of the decade, but top five of all time is silly.

Well, they also have The Fabulous Moolah as #27, just below Hulk Hogan (#23) and Bruno Sammartino (#24). I don't want to high-jack the thread, but the list is out there on the Internets.

And you can probably guess who the homo-erotic #1 choice of WWE was.

You think he's cute. He know's he's sexy.

I remember being a big Shawn basher, but in a REAL list, he deserves Top 5, not because of his "feh" drawing power (mostly of the 90's when business tanked), but other than Bret Hart, he has to be one of the best performers they've ever had.

His comeback in 2002 and doing it all over again, except without being a shithead, really makes him look better overall than how his legacy was printed at the end of the 90's.


Top 5, in no order: Hulk, Andre, Bret, Shawn, Undertaker.


Sorry, I'm thread-jacking. My bad.


So... what did Brodus Clay do?

Nevermind, I saw what he did... it could've been worse. I know it's been 7 years, but that music is so bad, I still remember Ernest Miller dancing to it at the 2004 Royal Rumble before being tossed by Benoit or Orton.

Michaels is absolutely an all-time great worker in the WWE. I fully agree that his 2002-2010 comeback elevated his legacy and secured a favorable position in history. I find myself missing what he brought to the shows since he's been retired.

I'm feeling that WWE ranks him so highly in those sort of lists has a big part to do with his loyalty over the years (never jumping to WCW, etc). I wouldn't go too hard on him for his lack of drawing power either, I think business was down because of other circumstances and he did about as well as could be expected for the era.

No worries about any possible thread jacking, it's always great to have a lively discussion on DWB in this day and age.

I can't believe I'm doing this, but in Shawn's defense, they rarely gave him a solid foil. Again, most of my previous hate was just grasping straws for reasons to hate him, just because of his politics.


They did a rushed program with Diesel, then a rushed program that went nowhere with Davey Boy over Diana, then a solid program with Vader, followed by a rushed program with Mankind that really had nothing to it, was left off a PPV entirely, then rushed into a program with Sid and dropped the title.


The point: The booking team couldn't make up their mind what to do with the main event scene, and while the matches mostly kicked ass, a lot of them had little to no reason behind them.

I think the Bulldog program was rushed just because the WWE offered him a main event spot if he didn't jump ship to WCW. They really don't want to use him, so he did his two main event PPVs, got to say, "There, you're a main eventer." and ended the feud.

Davey Boy was used pretty badly before the heel turn, too. You put him and Luger together as a Super Team, then DON'T have them run away with the tag titles? I'm sorry, but both men were above "tag team" levels of the card, and making them less of a factor than the Smoking Gunns really proved their worth in the company at the time.

To bring things back to topic (kind of), I'm actually digging Kane, again. I think it's the mask. It's not only the chicks that did the mask. :P


... That didn't sound right at all.

I just watched it on youtube. It reminded me of Flash Funk and his entrance, but more importantly, his valets reminded me of Tracy and Nadine, the Funkettes. (Yes, I remember their names. I realize how sad that is.)

The video wasn't in HD, so I couldn't pick out his valets, but I looked it up (which might be even more sad). They're Naomi ("I moan" backwards) and Cameron Lynn. Naomi Knight was the running up in the NXT Kaitlyn won. Cameron Lynn was the first one eliminated in last year's Tough Enough.

With Kaitlyn, AJ, Aksana, Naomi, and Kaitlyn called up recently, I wonder when we'll see Alicia Fox's younger sister, Caylee Turner.

Especially when you say "did" instead of "dig."