This will be the official home for the discussion of the matches chosen in the wrestling homework poll. Plus, since I did the first week I'll pick who does next weeks poll and picks the matches. From now on the person who does the week will pick the following weeks poster to choose the matches. So the winner for next week is...........

WMD

..........................................let's get discussing!

The small crowd for Flair/Perfect hurt the match overall IMO.

Since I have reviewed Hennig/Flair recently, I will post that, then get into my opinion on the match.

(Review taken from Wrestlefest 1993...)
- Loser Leaves the WWF Match:
Mr. Perfect vs. "Nature Boy" Ric Flair:
Yes, it's the REAL one from Monday Night Raw the night after the Royal Rumble, unlike Invasion of the Bodyslammers where they stuck in a House Show match and advertised it as the Retirement match. Feeling out process to begin the match and they lockup into the corner. Flair with a shove so Perfect slaps, and repeat a few times. Lockup again and Flair with a standing side headlock and a shoulder block. Criss cross and Perfect with a drop toe hold and some slaps to the head, sending Flair rolling out of the ring. Heenan grabs the ring bell hammer and has a little chat with Flair. Lockup and Flair with a headlock into a hammerlock. Perfect reverses and Flair with a drop toe hold into a front facelock. Perfect reverses and applies a hammerlock. Flair takes Perfect to the corner and catches him with a series of chops. Perfect gives it back with some nasty ones and Flair flops onto his face. Lockup and Flair with a headlock takeover. Perfect reverses with a head scissors and both men are back up in a nuetral position. Perfect pulls down the strap and they lockup. Flair with a knee lift and chops in the corner. Perfect gives it back and puts Flair down with a series of jabs. Flair with a poke to the eye and he tosses Perfect over the top rope and grabs a chair, but the referee stops him. Commercial break and back inside Flair whips Perffect across the ring and Perfect spills nastily over the top rope, and we can see him kinda do a blade job. Yep, he's busted, but not very badly, but in these days there were very little if any blade jobs in WWF. Back inside and Flair hammers away in the corner. Irish whip to the corner and Perfect with the oversell. Flair with a modified chicken wing pin for a series of two counts. Flair chokes Perfect with his shin while arguing with the referee. Perfect comes off the ropes with a slap and the two exchange blows. Irish whip to the corner is reversed and Perfect with a big forearm and roll up for two. Flair with a punch to the midsection. Irish whip and Perfect blocks a hip toss with a back slide for two. Irish whip is reversed to the corner and Perfect with a ba-a-a-ack body drop. Flair does some begging and Perfect pulls Flair back into the center of the ring. Perfect with mounted punches in the corner so Flair retaliates with an inverted atomic drop followed by a school boy roll up for two. Flair takes a breather outside the ring so Perfect chops him on the apron and suplexes him back into the ring for a two count. Flair with a boot to the midsection and an Irish whip, applying a sleeper hold. Perfect battles back to his feet and rams Flair's head into the buckle. Irish whip is reversed and Perfect with a sloppy sleeperhold clothesline for two, and he applies a sleeper hold now. Flair fights back now and breaks the hold with a back suplex, and now both men are down. Flair goes to school and applies the figure four leglock, and uses the ropes for leverage. Flair works over the knee of Perfect in the corner and snapmares him into the center of the ring. Flair goes to the top rope...and obviously gets slammed off. Commercial and Perfect has Flair on his knees. Flair gets a fake pair of brass knuckles and cleans Perfects clock with them. Flair takes forever to make the cover and drops an elbow for two, as Perfect has his foot on the bottom rope. Heenan has a big smile on his face while Flair hammers away at the cut of Perfect. Flair with a nasty chop, but Perfect no sells. Perfect hobbles after a begging Flair and hammers him in the corner with chops. Irish whip to the corner and a back body drop. Irish whip to the corner and Flair flips over, runs up the ropes and comes off into a clothesline of Perfect for two as Heenan has a heart attack. Flair with a double leg trip and covers for two with his feet on the ropes several times. Perfect turns it over into a pinning combination for two. Irish whip and Perfect catches Flair with the Perfect-Plex at 17:32!

- Like Mad Dog said, the match overall, was a bit tarnished thanks to such a shitty crowd (the ones that also weren't into the HBK/Jannetty matches, either), but what makes up for that for the home viewer is Heenan on commentary, who was constantly having a fit to keep you interested. The wrestling sequences in the match were fine, and the psychology worked very well, with smart wrestling in the opening minutes. The finish I would've liked to be a bit different (Since thats the finish they did for most of their house show matches), but it shows you can lose at any given moment, which is how Perfect won. Overall, it would be somewhere between ***1/2 and ****, depending on my mood.

Not sure this is the thread to stick this in, but with the start of this wrestling homework idea, I've been wanting to make kind of a revised Match Rating Scale which is less objective. I'm thinking something along the lines as the olympics, in which you have minor and major deductions for blown spots, lost/lack of psycology, timing issues, run-in/dirty finishes. I haven't given this alot of thought, but I think it would be cool, expanding the match rating system to a out of 10.0 Olympics kind of rating. Obviously it would make a 10.0 perfect match almost impossible to find, and possibly obsolete altogether, which I think would be cool.

If you're interested, let me know, maybe we can open a new thread and start kicking around ideas for what deductions should be. Let me know major problems you see with something like this. I think a problem would be a RAW match that is only 7 minutes long. It may feature great action, but how much story can you tell in those given 7 minutes. Hard to penalize the performers in the match for the amount of time they are given. Just a thought, let me know.

I find that to be a good idea. In my star reviews, if a match just drags, has run ins, big spots botched (or repeated), I tend to decrease the rating because of those things.

I'd like to make some sort of standardized (but still a bit objectionable) kind of scale. For instance, lack of selling the primary body part targeted in the match would be -.5, settling into a body part-specific hold after 10 minutes of working nothing would be -.25, etc. etc.

These numbers arent really my suggestions, just examples.

I think instances where someone no sells a body part being worked over like a wolf on fresh meat should result in either a .5 or 1.0 deduction. No selling is the biggest offense I see in wrestling, other than repeating spots, and multiple run-ins.

Yeah, repeating spots should be a big deduction too. A minor blown spot, maybe -.10, a major -.25, and a repeat, -.50. Which means, you'd be looking at -.75 on a blown spot and repeat.

I just like this idea to really make a 10.0 or 5-star match a thing of beauty.

I'd love to give a bunch of 0.5's or something, just for shits and giggles. In olympic form, that is 20 minute of pure laughter.

How big a deduction would a called spot on camera be? Have to be at least .5 I think. Maybe matches need to start at a certain degree of difficulty kind of thing. Like, Rey/Chavo went 11 minutes last night on Smackdown - I'd say they would be applicable out of 10.0. However, Booker T and Orlando Jordan went only 3 minutes, meaning maybe the top rating they could get would be 3.0 or 4.0 or something along those lines, and then apply deductions.

Calling a spot on camera...

If the person pulls a Sid and clearly calls it out (see WrestleWar '91 for 1 great example), then I think it should get a harsh deduction of at least .5. Calling a spot very quietly but the camera is in your face only a .25.

On camera blade jobs should also get a deduction of a .25 or .5, depending on how obvious (like Takers on a RAW in September '97 or at KOTR '98)

Yeah, on cam blades are pretty damn weak. I had something else to say here, but lost it when I couldn't post a reply for some reason.

Oh yeah, blocking chair shots, steel step shots, things like that. Triple H is the leading offender. That peice of shit, for his supposed "love of the game" sure never takes a clean chair shot to the head. Always putting up his hands like a little bitch. That should be a deduction too.

For Backlash 2002 (I think this was it), +1.0 for Undertaker smacking him clean when he attempted to block. "oh no you don't, motherfucker!" (curves chair)

-1.0 (at LEAST) for Hogans blocks. They're so obvious, even the best camera angle looks like shit. Hell, maybe -1.5. :P