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Mad Dog - May 2, 2005 12:52 PM (GMT)
You know the drill. I'll edit this post with the card later.

SamoaRowe - May 4, 2005 02:22 AM (GMT)
I predict JBL and Cena will have a much better match this time around.

London vs Chavo will be on the card and will hit ****.

Booker T vs Angle will be good.

And Carlito vs Big Show will make me cry.

prof_plague - May 4, 2005 02:25 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ May 3 2005, 08:22 PM)
I predict JBL and Cena will have a much better match this time around.

London vs Chavo will be on the card and will hit ****.

Booker T vs Angle will be good.

And Carlito vs Big Show will make me cry.

Doesn't sound half that bad. I mostly want to see Carlito back in the ring, even if it will suck.

dynamite kido - May 4, 2005 04:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ May 3 2005, 08:22 PM)
I predict JBL and Cena will have a much better match this time around.

London vs Chavo will be on the card and will hit ****.

Booker T vs Angle will be good.

And Carlito vs Big Show will make me cry.

Keep on dreaming...........

Also, no mention of Eddie/Rey?!?!?!

Scrooge McSuck - May 4, 2005 04:10 AM (GMT)
Was anyone surprised JBL is facing Cena? Why not just hand him a random contract from Mick Foley's collection saying he gets a title shot whenever he wants, or did Triple H already steal every copy of that one?

SamoaRowe - May 4, 2005 01:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (dynamite kido @ May 3 2005, 10:06 PM)
QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ May 3 2005, 08:22 PM)
I predict JBL and Cena will have a much better match this time around.

London vs Chavo will be on the card and will hit ****.

Booker T vs Angle will be good.

And Carlito vs Big Show will make me cry.

Keep on dreaming...........

Also, no mention of Eddie/Rey?!?!?!

Yeah, I'm not sure why I didn't mention Eddie/Rey...

And London/Chavo could very well hit **** since it will be a Smackdown only pay-per-view, which is when the Cruiserweight title basically gets treated better (looks to last year's No Way Out, Great American Bash, and while it was both brands, Survivor Series).

Also predicting an MNM title defense, which should be solid.

prof_plague - May 4, 2005 02:58 PM (GMT)
This one could be more non-main eventer based. I like the sound of that. :) (I'd prefer it on Raw, but take what you can get.)

dynamite kido - May 4, 2005 05:52 PM (GMT)
The fact that ANYONE thinks that they would actually allow the Cruisers enough time to even come close to **** is amusing to me these days.

Like I said......keep on dreaming.

whitemilesdavis - May 4, 2005 06:07 PM (GMT)
I've never seen evidence that Chavo could deliver ****.

dynamite kido - May 4, 2005 06:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ May 4 2005, 12:07 PM)
I've never seen evidence that Chavo could deliver ****.

Also, if there was a time you WOULD have seen that evidence......it would have been in 1997.

whitemilesdavis - May 4, 2005 06:25 PM (GMT)
I wouldn't say Chavo sucks, cause I've never really had the chance to see, but I think popular opinion of him is based more on Uncle Eddie.

dynamite kido - May 4, 2005 06:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ May 4 2005, 12:25 PM)
I wouldn't say Chavo sucks, cause I've never really had the chance to see, but I think popular opinion of him is based more on Uncle Eddie.

I don't think Chavo is bad either, but with the way the WWE runs their Cruiserweight division they would probably fire two guys that upstaged their main eventers.

TheGreatWhiteChoate - May 4, 2005 09:52 PM (GMT)
I think the Cruiserweight division is in the process of being developed, tho


I could just be an idealist

prof_plague - May 4, 2005 11:19 PM (GMT)
May be this could be the start of a new era. An era where cruiserweights are allowed to look as good as heavyweights.

Mad Dog - May 4, 2005 11:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (TheGreatWhiteChoate @ May 4 2005, 05:52 PM)
I think the Cruiserweight division is in the process of being developed, tho


I could just be an idealist

This is just they're yearly half hearted attempt at pushing the crusiers.

Scrooge McSuck - May 4, 2005 11:24 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mad Dog @ May 4 2005, 07:21 PM)
QUOTE (TheGreatWhiteChoate @ May 4 2005, 05:52 PM)
I think the Cruiserweight division is in the process of being developed, tho


I could just be an idealist

This is just they're yearly half hearted attempt at pushing the crusiers.

And that is the 15,000th post on DWB. Congradulations!

And yeah, the Cruiserweight division gets a pity push now and then to try and keep spirits up.

Mad Dog - May 8, 2005 06:54 PM (GMT)
Man, this has been a slow week news wise.

whitemilesdavis - May 23, 2005 02:44 PM (GMT)
It seems a lot of people dug the show. Did anyone here watch it?

dynamite kido - May 23, 2005 02:51 PM (GMT)
My thoughts......

Best match of the night - Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey

-Unfortunately it was a bullshit finish. Eddie lost by DQ and I must say that killed the match for me at that point. Although I did think of a major positive when it comes to bringing Chavo into the feud.......we could possibly see Eddie/Chavo vs. Rey/Psychosis.

Worst match of the night - I know most of you think I'm going to say Jordan/Heidenreich right? I'm actually not though and only because that match was quick. Angle/Booker T was the most boring, badly booked, do moves for nothing match I've seen by two main players in sometime. The match was paced horribly, they didn't work right (For christ's sake Angle was going after Booker's wife.......why didn't Angle catch an ass whippin?), and the work was lackluster on top of that.

-Haas/Holly did a good job in their match with MNM and Holly was super over with the crowd. Good overall match as it was the opener and I would put it in the **1/2-**3/4 range.

-I was really impressed by JBL/Cena though for sure. It wasn't workrate heaven or anything, but it was booked perfectly.............until the end. They beat the living hell out of each other with some good outside work and some nice use of JBL's limo and the truck (A flatbed truck with a DJ booth on it) used for Cena's entrance. Good brawling all around and both guys juiced. Cena though pulled an Eddie Guerrero almost from last years JD as he was bleeding BAD. Too bad they did a dumb ass spot at the end with JBL quitting when Cena was going to hit him with a huge exhaust pipe from the truck from his entrance.

-Overall I enjoyed the PPV, and it seemed as if all the guys really worked hard...........only to have it screwed up by booking. Also, I really hope that Angle/Booker feud dies N-O-W as well......

whitemilesdavis - May 23, 2005 02:58 PM (GMT)
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Worst match of the night - I know most of you think I'm going to say Jordan/Heidenreich right? I'm actually not though and only because that match was quick. Angle/Booker T was the most boring, badly booked, do moves for nothing match I've seen by two main players in sometime. The match was paced horribly, they didn't work right (For christ's sake Angle was going after Booker's wife.......why didn't Angle catch an ass whippin?), and the work was lackluster on top of that.


That's really bad for Booker, and could put the nail in the coffin for any chance of ever returning to the main event. Angle's had good matches with everyone, but Booker hasn't had a good match in a long, long time.

Looks like a good show though. How were MNM work-wise?

dynamite kido - May 23, 2005 03:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ May 23 2005, 08:58 AM)
QUOTE
Worst match of the night - I know most of you think I'm going to say Jordan/Heidenreich right? I'm actually not though and only because that match was quick. Angle/Booker T was the most boring, badly booked, do moves for nothing match I've seen by two main players in sometime. The match was paced horribly, they didn't work right (For christ's sake Angle was going after Booker's wife.......why didn't Angle catch an ass whippin?), and the work was lackluster on top of that.


That's really bad for Booker, and could put the nail in the coffin for any chance of ever returning to the main event. Angle's had good matches with everyone, but Booker hasn't had a good match in a long, long time.

Looks like a goos show thought. How were MNM work-wise?

Surprisingly, I wouldn't totally blame that Angle/Booker match on Booker. I know that Angle was probably the best workwise for 2005.........but I'm thinking that might be coming to an end now. Angle didn't work smart in this one either and I don't know the specifics, but it just looked like a half assed match on both sides.

MNM however looked pretty damn solid. I like their act, and with time to get better with their in ring.............they should be pretty good.

whitemilesdavis - May 23, 2005 03:20 PM (GMT)
It may be that Angle's injuries are catching up with him, but at this point I'd say he has a MUCH longer leash than Booker as far as WWE goes. I still think Angle has several great matches left in him, but I'm not sure he has the potential to carry anyone at this point.

dynamite kido - May 23, 2005 03:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ May 23 2005, 09:20 AM)
It may be that Angle's injuries are catching up with him, but at this point I'd say he has a MUCH longer leash than Booker as far as WWE goes. I still think Angle has several great matches left in him, but I'm not sure he has the potential to carry anyone at this point.

It's weird. I'm kind of a mixed bag with Angle myself. I would agree that he's incapable to carry people at this point, but in Feburary at No Way Out he may have had his best carry job of his career when he wrestled Cena in a ***1/2 match. So who knows at this point, but I would probably agree that his injuries might be getting the best of him...........or he's losing motivation.

whitemilesdavis - May 23, 2005 03:52 PM (GMT)
I think with his injuries, he knows he can only go all out a few times a year, and therefore picks his spots.

dynamite kido - May 23, 2005 04:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ May 23 2005, 09:52 AM)
I think with his injuries, he knows he can only go all out a few times a year, and therefore picks his spots.

I would agree with that for sure.......

Scrooge McSuck - May 27, 2005 11:58 PM (GMT)
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- Kurt Angle v. Booker T. Booker, as expected by the video package, goes after Angle and beats the hell out of him, then sidekicks him down. He chokes away on the top rope, but Angle facelocks him, so Booker pounds him with shoulders to escape. Into the corner, and Booker throws some chops, so Angle takes him into the corner and fires back with his own shoulders. Angle pounds him down and grabs a chinlock, but Booker fights up and hiptosses him. Angle begs off, so Booker stomps him in the corner and necksnaps him out. Seated dropkick, but Angle suckers him into the anklelock. Booker pushes off to escape and sidekicks him down again. I haven't seen Booker actually showing emotion like this since, ever, really. He puts Angle on the top rope and axe kicks him to the floor. Booker really needs to tap into his inner pissed off black guy more often. Angle sends him into the post to buy time, however, and kneelifts him as they head into the ring. He does that a few times to take over, mixing it up with some forearms, and a vertical suplex gets two. That's actually the first pin attempt of the match. He takes Booker down with a chinlock and bodyscissors, but Booker fights out of it. He misses a sidekick and crotches himself on the top rope, however. Angle gets a nice backdrop suplex for two off that. Kurt works him over in the corner with forearms and chokes away. Backbreaker gets two. Angle wrestles him into a two count and keeps him on the mat with a bearhug. Michael Cole actually makes a good point for once, noting that Kurt survived Booker's initial emotionally-charged flurry and was able to take control with patience and wrestling. Booker fights up with an elbow to the face and makes the comeback with the forearm and clothesline. Snap suplex gets two for Booker. Superkick puts Angle down, as he's bleeding from a variety of places. Axe kick misses and Angle tries the Angle slam, but the Bookend gets two instead. Booker stops to spinarooni, but that allows Angle to come back with a clothesline and start throwing the german suplexes. Booker fights out with elbows, but walks into the overhead suplex. Angle gets two. Angle Slam is reversed to a cradle for the pin at 13:59. That looked like a mistake, actually. Ending didn't really work for me, as I was expecting some anklelock stuff, but the match itself was quite good, probably Booker's best in a long time. ***1/4


Sounds like someone loved this match, or as much love as you can have for Booker T these days.




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