Title: The MLB American League (May) Discussion Topic:
Scrooge McSuck - May 2, 2005 02:52 AM (GMT)
TheGreatWhiteChoate - May 2, 2005 05:26 AM (GMT)
Most surprising team: the Orioles...by far.
Scrooge McSuck - May 2, 2005 05:47 AM (GMT)
Toronto is in 2nd place of the AL East... that's even more. Baltimore at least has a pretty awesome batting lineup, although their pitching rotation has had much to be desired.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - May 2, 2005 05:53 AM (GMT)
I like their kids, tho....Bedard and Cabrera can be frontliners someday
Mad Dog - May 2, 2005 12:46 PM (GMT)
Since I ignore the Yankees. What's been the problem with them so far. I noticed they either score double digits or get shut out in games.
Scrooge McSuck - May 2, 2005 03:59 PM (GMT)
Let's see... they finally fixed their bullpen problems from last year, but now...
1. Mussina is barely able to do anything positive.
2. Kevin Brown needs to retire, ASAP
3. Randy Johnson has pitched 3 good games, the others bleh
4. Jaret Wright sucks and is already on DL
5. Like you said, the lineup either kills the other team, or gets bitched up themselves.
Where the hell did Giambi go? He was barely in the DH role, now for 1B/DH it's Tino Martinez (YAY!) and Andy Phillips (look to the future I guess.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - May 2, 2005 06:10 PM (GMT)
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Mad Dog Posted on May 2 2005, 08:46 AM Since I ignore the Yankees. What's been the problem with them so far. I noticed they either score double digits or get shut out in games.
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Scrooge makes valid points, but if you want to nail it down to one thing, it's inconsistency. When their starters pitch well, they can't hit. When they hit well, their pitchers blow the lead. Their bullpen has been awful, their starters have been routinely bad, and aside from A-Rod driving in ten runs in a single game and Godzilla doing what he does, their lineup has been bad. They'll come out of it, of cousre, but I don't thihnk they're anymore than a high 80-low 90 win team this year.
Scrooge McSuck - May 2, 2005 06:53 PM (GMT)
Yeah, in short: Inconsistant playing, but that's very vague. Come on D-Rays... come out of the basement!
Mad Dog - May 2, 2005 07:38 PM (GMT)
I predicted that the Yankees would miss the playoffs this year. Let's hope I'm right.
S.T. Strickler - May 2, 2005 11:06 PM (GMT)
This may be the year that the O's get back into the playoffs.. Probably will get as far as the ALCS... Then I see a World Series championship for them next year.
Scrooge McSuck - May 2, 2005 11:08 PM (GMT)
Hopefully some other punk 12 year old robs the Orioles of an out. :)
Scrooge McSuck - May 10, 2005 12:16 AM (GMT)
Tino homers in three consecutive games (marks the fuck out), and now the Yankees lead the Mariners 3-1 in the top of the 5th. Go New York, Go New York, Go!
TheGreatWhiteChoate - May 10, 2005 02:11 AM (GMT)
*wonders how to tell Scrooge this
scrooge.....they suck
Scrooge McSuck - May 10, 2005 04:22 AM (GMT)
Whatever you say, front runner.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - May 10, 2005 09:28 PM (GMT)
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Scrooge McSuck Posted on May 10 2005, 12:22 AM Whatever you say, front runner.
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Irony, noun: A Yankees fan calling you a front runner.
S.T. Strickler - May 10, 2005 09:46 PM (GMT)
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That was one of the worst calls in the history of baseball.. Technically, the Yankees should be holding a 3-2 series lead right now.
Scrooge McSuck - May 10, 2005 10:07 PM (GMT)
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| QUOTE | Scrooge McSuck Posted on May 10 2005, 12:22 AM Whatever you say, front runner.
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Irony, noun: A Yankees fan calling you a front runner.
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I've liked the Yankees since I was a itty-bitty boy, when they sucked and were trying to stay out of the basement in 1990 and 1991.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - May 10, 2005 10:12 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I've liked the Cards since i was little boy too, and they sucked through the early ninties. So....I guess we're even.
Scrooge McSuck - May 10, 2005 10:14 PM (GMT)
No... the Yankees have won 4 World Series championships since I started watching baseball, so you're ahead in the "suffering team" file.
Except I cheer for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, the only team in current history to never have a winning season.
Mad Dog - May 11, 2005 05:41 PM (GMT)
Pena resigned as the Royals manager. Can't say I blame him as that team looks completely hopeless. Greinke and Stairs are the only players they have worth a damn.
Scrooge McSuck - May 11, 2005 05:43 PM (GMT)
Ugly game for NYY/Seatle. Pavano gives up 2 homers and 5 runs in top of 1st (thanks A-Rod, you clutz), and now Moyer gives up 5 consecutive hits, allowing 3 runs, and only 1 out in bottom of 1st.
Scrooge McSuck - May 11, 2005 05:44 PM (GMT)
Correction: 5-4 bottom of 1st with only 1 out.
Correction again: 5-5 bottom of the 1st with only 1 out.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - May 11, 2005 06:13 PM (GMT)
I really feel for Tony Pena. He was one of my favorite players growing up, and the catcher for the Cards not only in real life but in RBI Baseball (great game). He deserved better than the league's lowest talent team. Hope he lands on his feet.
Mad Dog - May 11, 2005 06:14 PM (GMT)
I bet I could go by a game and put together a better team through an expansion draft.
Scrooge McSuck - May 11, 2005 06:15 PM (GMT)
The kids from the Sandlot would be a better MLB team than the Royals... and I don't mean that horrible Sandlot 2 movie that needs to be destroyed quicker than the Star Wars Holiday Special.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - May 11, 2005 06:20 PM (GMT)
Anyone who says MLB doesn't need a salary cap....man, I don't know how you can. I like an upper-mid market team, so I'm fine...but what about these owners that don't care enough to spend more than 20 million on their teams? I'm good friends with a Royals fan who can barely bring himself to watch games anymore. It's pathetic.
Scrooge McSuck - May 11, 2005 06:21 PM (GMT)
Tell owners to spend fucking money or to sell the team to someone who will... and you really have no room to complain, since the Cardinals are pretty loaded in big name talent that probably aren't cheap.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - May 11, 2005 06:24 PM (GMT)
I'm not complaining about my team, if you reread what I said. Cards have a budget of about 80 million, which I believe pegs them about 10th in the league. So they're fine. I just feel bad for the lower budget teams and their fans.
Scrooge McSuck - May 11, 2005 06:25 PM (GMT)
Hello :) (cheers for the Devil Rays, who, IIRC, have a salary cap of $33 million)
Mad Dog - May 11, 2005 06:39 PM (GMT)
The Reds owner in the past has made a good point about it. The payoffs to spend large amounts on the team just aren't there in the current state of the game. Sure you can spend an extra 20 million on your team but what good does it do when the Yankees are willing to overpay their whole team and make it so free agents are overpriced.
Scrooge McSuck - May 11, 2005 06:40 PM (GMT)
Maybe someone should start a "Salary Cap" discussion topic, but I don't care if it stays here. (sips hawaiian punch)
Scrooge McSuck - May 11, 2005 07:04 PM (GMT)
Tino homers AGAIN~! to tie the game at 9-9. This is the 5th straight game he homered, and the longest Yankee streak since... he did it in 2001. :P
Mad Dog - May 11, 2005 07:36 PM (GMT)
So what's the team ERA for the Yankees?
Scrooge McSuck - May 11, 2005 07:39 PM (GMT)
Somewhere in the 5.40 area, which isn't too good. They had a team ERA of 1.72 for the last 4 games, which helps a little.
Mad Dog - May 11, 2005 07:50 PM (GMT)
So who's off the team next year and who's the scapegoat?
Scrooge McSuck - May 11, 2005 07:51 PM (GMT)
Wright and Brown. Brown finally pitched a good game, but he still sucked the four before that, and Wright is the new Vazquez. Will have a few good innings, then suck major ass.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - May 11, 2005 07:53 PM (GMT)
Wright has been pretty piss poor, but let's not forget about Pavano. Big time acquisition with a 4.80 ERA....that's fantastic.
Mad Dog - May 11, 2005 07:56 PM (GMT)
Are people crying about Randy Johnson's 3.68 ERA?
Scrooge McSuck - May 11, 2005 07:57 PM (GMT)
Pavano has 2 wins at least going into today. :P
Scrooge McSuck - May 13, 2005 02:41 PM (GMT)
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Tino enjoying resurgence at 37 Martinez is hitting .322 with seven homers in May By Mark Feinsand / MLB.com
NEW YORK -- When Tino Martinez signed with the Yankees this winter, his role for 2005 was unclear. Joe Torre told the veteran that he would be in the mix at first base and DH, but the manager also told Martinez not to concern himself with his overall numbers, as his at-bat total wasn't likely to be high enough for that to matter. Now, with Jason Giambi struggling and Martinez swinging the hottest bat on the team, it looks more and more like Martinez will be a regular presence in the lineup for most of the season.
"My expectations are that when I'm in the lineup, I don't think that whatever I do is a bonus," Martinez said. "I have to do the job, to drive in runs. If I'm up there in key situations, I have to do the job. If I fail, the team fails."
Martinez signed a one-year deal worth $2.75 million this winter, with an option for 2006 worth $3 million or a $250,000 buyout. Although he had posted some big seasons during his first tenure in the Bronx from 1996-2001, Martinez didn't feel the pressure to come in and belt 40 home runs in his first season back in pinstripes.
"Had I gotten some kind of huge contract and I was going to play first base every day coming in, the expectations would have been a lot higher," he said. "Coming in with the circumstances and the role that I had, I didn't think that I was risking a whole lot."
Martinez hit just .238 with two homers and seven RBIs in April, starting 18 games at first base. Although his bat was a bit cold, his defense was important for New York, so Torre stayed with him.
Now that Martinez has found his stroke at the plate -- he's hitting .322 with seven home runs and 14 RBIs in nine games in May -- he has worked his way into the lineup as the starting first baseman, moving up to the No. 6 spot in the lineup.
"It puts a smile on your face with what he's done," Torre said. "We have to keep in mind that it certainly wouldn't hurt him to sit here or there. We'll keep an eye on him. If we see him dragging, we'll do something about it. Right now, we're going to play this as long as we can."
"Donnie [Mattingly] has my mechanics right where I want them," Martinez said. "I can tell you when I'm going bad there are a million things I'm doing wrong. When I'm going good, I'm doing those things right. I have good mechanics and a good, level swing every time I go to the plate."
As good as Martinez is going, it wasn't very long ago that he contemplated quitting the game he loves. After batting just .190 during Spring Training, Martinez wondered to some teammates whether he had enough left to contribute to his team at the age of 37.
"We talked earlier about him giving the game up. If he's not contributing, hitting home runs and being an offensive force, he might not have the desire to play," said Gary Sheffield. "I see the passion, coming in every day he has the passion where he wants to go out and succeed."
"If I wasn't playing my best or helping the team out," Martinez said, "I'd have gladly stepped aside."
For Torre, Martinez's recent hot streak has been just as important for his confidence as it has been for the team, which has won its last five games -- each of which included a Martinez homer.
"The most important thing is that he has done this, and nobody can take it away from him," Torre said. "If he does go into a flat spot, he doesn't have to think, 'Can I still play this game?'"
"He knows what it's like to be here and to play here," Sheffield said. "New York can give you that energy to go out and do what you do, and he's responded."
Martinez has taken advantage of the short porch in right field at Yankee Stadium, hitting seven of his nine homers in the Bronx -- and all to right field. Martinez is hitting .286 at home and just .226 on the road, and 18 of his 21 RBIs have come at the Stadium.
"I love hitting here in the Stadium, I love the atmosphere and the energy that's here every day," Martinez said. "That brings out the best in me, and it brings out the best in a lot of players. You can't get this anywhere else in baseball."
"He's a player that enjoys playing here. He's familiar with it, he's had a lot of success here, and he's not afraid to make mistakes," said Derek Jeter. "That's the attitude you have to have in order to play here. He's played well over the years, but it seems like he has a new life."
The home fans have certainly embraced Martinez's return, giving him standing ovations every time he makes contact with the ball. During his five-game homer streak, Martinez has been cheered on for a curtain call each time, prompting Bernie Williams and Jorge Posada to give him a new nickname: C.C.
"Those guys mess with me. That's Jorge and Bernie," Martinez said. "The fans have been great to me, but it does get embarrassing."
If he continues to swing the bat as he has during the team's current winning streak, he should expect to be embarrassed quite a bit.
"I have a lot of confidence at the plate and I feel good," he said. "My swing is right where I want it."
Mark Feinsand is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs. |