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Title: Biggest WWE Flops in last 5 Years?


Scrooge McSuck - April 29, 2005 06:54 PM (GMT)
I thought this would be interesting, I just hope it pans out decently enough. The title is quite simple: What in the last 5 years that WWE has done that has either been a failed experiment that should've been successful, outright stupid booking, or stuff that just really pisses you off?

Here's my 5...

#5: Necrophillia
For the first time I can remember, I actually turned off wrestling because I was so disgusted by this angle. Also the fact Triple H pulled yet another Power Play pisses me off even more.

#4: RAW World Heavyweight Title
Yeah, it's Triple H again, this time being a bitch because the IC Title was "beneath him" (except in 2001 when he squashed Jericho and Jeff Hardy for his millionth and millionth +1 reigns), forcing the title to be brought back in. Does he win a Tournament? A grueling Rumble? No, he's simply handed it. Then to top it off, the belt becomes nothing more than a Triple H ego-fest as he holds onto the thing for nearly a year, allowing his best friend to hold it for 3 weeks, squashing Booker T in a racial angle that would piss of the NAACP, feuded with barely mobile Scott Steiner and Kevin Nash, then made Goldberg look like shit. The most worthless title for over a year, and after Benoit TRIED making it credible, it still belongs to Triple H.


#3: Goldberg
I'm starting to see a pattern (working backwards). GOldberg was made by going through people like nothing. Except in WWE, he had problems beating up ANYONE, and was often made the bitch in angles. When he finally DID get over by tearing through 3 people in the Elimination Chamber at Summerslam, an INJURED Triple H still goes over. The booking after that was still pretty bad until he left the day after Wrestlemania XX, which featured the infamous encounter with Brock Lesnar.

#2: The New World Order
Ratings are slipping a little, so McMahon signs back Hulk Hogan (who hasn't been in WWF since August 1993), Kevin Nash (since May 1996), and Scott Hall (also May 1996) to spice things up. The Problem? They have difficulty beating up one person in 3-on-1 encounters! If that isn't bad enough, crowds refuse to boo Hulk Hogan, thus turning him face far sooner than expected, Kevin Nash injures himself TWICE, and Scott Hall hops off the wagon. Then in stupid moves du jour, they make Ric Flair a nWo supporter, and have BOOKER T join?! AND SHAWN MICHAELS?!

#1: The Invasion Angle
Seriously... HOW DOD YOU FUCK THIS UP!? I swear, Vince must've done this intentionally to drive the point home that "WWF was better than WCW." You have Undertaker squash one of the WCW Main Eventers time after time, have big feuds between WWF Stars that "jump ship", and when the angle is over? Well, they signed Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Curt Hennig, and Dustin Rhodes in a span of 2 months. In the enxt year, they also brought in Scott Steiner and Goldberg. Please... this had money written all over it, and was the biggest bomb in recent years.

prof_plague - April 29, 2005 06:58 PM (GMT)
I'll add the top 5 later, but Diva Search, or any overly useless diva air time. This includes the UK girls, the Daily ...something. Just plain useless.

Scrooge McSuck - April 29, 2005 07:00 PM (GMT)
I forgot about that shit. I can't believe the WWE has me hating seeing hot, half-naked women on T.V.

SamoaRowe - April 29, 2005 07:00 PM (GMT)
This is a little entry I wrote last year (I forget when exactly).

QUOTE
Personally, these are the worst angles/storylines of the past few
years.

1) Katie Vick: This made me embarassed to be a wrestling fan. It
made me embarassed to have ever been a supporter of Triple H. It
made me hate Raw, and I spent the next few months more or less
ignoring Raw while checking out Smackdown (SD 6 era) and NWA:TNA. I
don't think I watched another Raw after this until the HBK vs RVD
World title match.

2) The last month of Chris Jericho's World title Reign: I was
marking out. Chris Jericho was on his way to main eventing
Wrestlemania against an opponent who he'd had terrific matches with
in the past (Triple H). Surely since it was the main event, the
build-up would be tremendous. Instead, Stephanie McMahon inserted
herself into Jericho's corner, and Y2J was made an after-thought.
Stephanie would be the one having tense encounters with Triple H
while Jericho was busy walking the family dog. Then the match
finally happened at WMX8 in front of a crowd burned out from
Hogan/Rock earlier that evening and not all that interested in the
story of the match. Triple H and Jericho put on a disappointing
match and Jericho goes back to becoming a career mid-carder while
Triple H went on to bury the entire Raw locker-room over the next
two years.

3) HLA: This sort of ties into the Katie Vick thing, since it was
happening around the same time on Raw. It was pathetic, and made me
embarassed to be associated with the product.

4) The Raw Diva Search: Gee, Raw comes up a lot here, doesn't it? I
cannot believe anyone thought this would drive ratings. 12 mostly
unlikable and forgettable women participating in tedious and
unimaginative contests so fans could choose winners. This contest
lasted for months, despite the audience crapping all over the
segments week after week, ratings slipping during Diva Search
segments, and the overall low quality of the segments themselves.
I'll admit, the contest became a bit more bearable when it came down
to the last five or six, but when there were a dozen of them it was
just plain hell. Watching each of them try and do the same stupid
thing (seduing Kamala, trying to be sexy with ice cream) was grating
and once again I felt stupid to be a wrestling fan.

5) The Invasion: Yeah, this one makes pretty much everyone's "worst
of" list. Not only was this rushed, but it was poorly planned. To
make matters worse, McMahons took over the whole storyline, and WWF
guys jumped onto the WCW/ECW team and became the leaders.
Personally, I did not want to see a WCW invasion being lead by
Stephanie McMahon, Shane McMahon, and Stone Cold. The invasion
lasted for over four chaotic months of superstars appearing and
disappearing without much explanations. This storyline was pretty
much when the WWF jumped the shark.

6) Poop-stain Patterson: Most people forget this, but it was an
aspect of the McMahon-Helmsley Faction of 2000. Pat Patterson and
Gerald Brisco were members of the Faction and were being allowed to
feud with top-babyfaces. Rikishi and Too Cool had been continual
enemies of the Faction, and during one match, Patterson lowered his
pants to give his own version of the "stink-face." Patterson exposed
his white old-man undies with a disgusting shit stain on the bottom.
It was beyond disgusting. A show or two later, Patterson would show
up with the stained undies in his hands and he would jam it into
Rikishi's face. Just awful.

7) Tazz vs Austin: This might sort of belong in the Invasion
profile, but this was pure crap. Week after week, Alliance segments
were the entire WCW/ECW stars standing around listening to Stone
Cold hog the attention. Most of these segments also included Austin
picking on Tazz and frequently beating the shit out of him. During
this entire time, I remember desperately wanting Tazz to mount an
offense and take a good fight to Austin. That never happened. Tazz
never got anything resembling revenge and after the Invasion was
over, Tazz enjoyed a brief Tag title run with Spike and then became
a full-time commentator.

8) The Radicalz Reunion: Late in 2000, after WWF deemed Chris Benoit
unworthy of continuing his main event push, he was teamed back up
with Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrero, and Perry Saturn. This was
exciting because Makenko and Saturn had lacked direction for months
at that point, and it was a great opportunity to use them again.
WRONG! Instead, we got to see lots of Radicalz vs Hardy Boyz
matches, where the Radicalz were frequently made to be the Hardy's
bitches. The Radicalz were never allowed to look good and eventually
Benoit turned on the group and proceeded to destroy all three of
them one by one. It made Benoit look really strong, but the others
were hurt badly in the image department.

9) Test/Steiner/Stacy: This was just one big mess. It started with
Stacy "getting Test over" by referring to Test's fans
as "testicles." This would have been a lot funnier if my friends and
I hadn't used to call Test that years earlier as a joke. Thus, Stacy
was about as creative as a 15 year old. Anyways, then Steiner and
Test form a tag team of suckiness, never really getting any
significant wins and doing a big J.O.B. to La Resistance in their
pay-per-view debut. This leads to Test being a big jerk and being
all mean to dumb old Stacy. The best part of this feud is their Bad
Blood match where Steiner falls flat on his face when he jumps off
the apron at Test. This was in June, by the way. Months later in
SEPTEMBER Test and Steiner have another match, this time if Test
wins than Steiner must become Test's bitch. So at this point, there
are heavy suggestions that not only is Test sexually abusive to
Stacy, but he desires to do the same to Steiner as well. Gross! So
Steiner becomes Test's bitch, but now inexplicably turns on Stacy
and becomes buddies with Test, thus making the past five months of
tedious feuding absolutely pointless.

10) The Corporate Ministry: This was total overkill. It was actually
a really fun storyline until Vince McMahon was revealed to be the
higher power, controlling the Undertaker. So this meant that the
entire storyline had been Vince McMahon feuding with Vince McMahon.
This was one of those Russo swerves where it didn't make any sense,
but dammit, he sure fooled all of us.

Scrooge McSuck - April 29, 2005 07:05 PM (GMT)
Woah, I forgot all about Tazz/Austin. I was marking out inside hoping Tazz would be his ass... and we got nothing. Pretty much everything you listed was bad, but I seemed to block most of it out my my mind.

Anyway... I know I shit all over Smackdown but damn... have we even mentioned one angle from Smackdown (2002-2005) that was really horrible? I know Tough Enough 4 was a waste of time, but it wasn't bad enough to make me wish to be blind, and Booker T's voodoo angle lasted all of a week.


Mad Dog - April 29, 2005 07:06 PM (GMT)
I think they blew it by not pushing Flair/Benoit/Guerrero as the new Horsemen in 2002.

prof_plague - April 29, 2005 07:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
10) The Corporate Ministry


I didn't think it was that bad at the time. May be if I were to rewatch it, perhaps. The bit with McMahon exposing he was head of the Ministry was a slightly predictable to me, but I know it wasn't to a few people because they weren't expecting such a complicated swerve.

Scrooge McSuck - April 29, 2005 07:07 PM (GMT)
Thank Steve Austin for that. His departure caused an audible that forced Flair to turn face again, and... go over Eddie Guerrero at KOTR? Does that make any sense?

SamoaRowe - April 29, 2005 07:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (prof_plague @ Apr 29 2005, 01:06 PM)
QUOTE
10) The Corporate Ministry


I didn't think it was that bad at the time. May be if I were to rewatch it, perhaps. The bit with McMahon exposing he was head of the Ministry was a slightly predictable to me, but I know it wasn't to a few people because they weren't expecting such a complicated swerve.

I was a complete and total mark when the corporate ministry happened and I thought it was terrible at the time. That's how bad I think it was.

I probably could've added the Al Wilson/Dawn Marie storyline, except I got so much cheap laughter out of it.

Mad Dog - April 29, 2005 07:09 PM (GMT)
"It was me the whole time Austin!!!"

Scrooge McSuck - April 29, 2005 07:11 PM (GMT)
Looking back... yeah, the Ministry angle sure was stupid. The Undertaker was "too into his character", you had a stable consisting of Mabel, Phineas Godwinns, Justin Hawk Bradshaw, and a Vampire, then in a moment that makes as much sense as Greedo shooting first, Vince McMahon, who the Undertaker has taunted, assaulted (and tried to marry his daughter) for 3 months, reveals he was behind it all along?

1999 WWF sure did blow with the big angles.

Mad Dog - April 29, 2005 07:13 PM (GMT)
June 99 started my whole dying off as a wrestling fan. I never had the same passion for wrestling after that month.

Scrooge McSuck - April 29, 2005 07:15 PM (GMT)
I lost mine in September 2002 when It finally kicked in that no matter what, Triple H runs the show.

Mad Dog - April 29, 2005 07:18 PM (GMT)
June 99, April/May 2001 and April/May/June 2002 were the big killers for me.

SamoaRowe - April 29, 2005 07:22 PM (GMT)
I bounced back from the Corporate Ministry angle easily enough, so it didn't hurt my interest in wrestling in 1999.

My big turnoff periods were April to May 2001, pretty much all of 2002 except for a few brights spots in the fall, and last fall.

Scrooge McSuck - April 29, 2005 07:22 PM (GMT)
I enjoyed most of 2002 because of the return of Hulk Hogan. I don't care what anyone else says, but for some reason whenever he's on, I become a care-free mark who doesn't know what words and phrases like "politics" "kayfabe" and "holding people down" mean.

SamoaRowe - April 29, 2005 07:26 PM (GMT)
I remember spending all of 2002 waiting for the WWE to get their act back together. I thought they were going to when Summerslam 2002 was so awesome. From that point, Smackdown became a good show for several months while Raw became a pathetic mess.

Scrooge McSuck - April 29, 2005 07:27 PM (GMT)
Pathetic mess is an under statement. I think I have 1 episode of RAW on tape from September 2002 through January 2003, and that was the one where Kane beat Jericho for the IC Title.

SamoaRowe - April 29, 2005 07:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Apr 29 2005, 01:27 PM)
Pathetic mess is an under statement. I think I have 1 episode of RAW on tape from September 2002 through January 2003, and that was the one where Kane beat Jericho for the IC Title.

I have the all gimmick episode with TLC 4. The show concludes with Triple H accusing Kane of murder.

I'd say Raw was the crappiest it ever was from September 2002 up until around October 2003. That was strangely enough the time Smackdown was at it's best since the roster split too.

Smackdown's worse time was probably April 2004 until January 2005.

Scrooge McSuck - April 29, 2005 07:45 PM (GMT)
I actually thought Raw was good from July-August of 2003, until Shane McMahon came back and did you-know-what to you-know-who. That just REALLY killed Raw for me. Thank God Smackdown was good though.

SamoaRowe - April 30, 2005 03:44 AM (GMT)
Even I thought Shane McMahon getting so much offense on Kane was bullshit, especially after Kane had been squashing RVD left and right for weeks.

I seriously think the complete burial of Kane during that time was Triple H politics, because a heel Kane was drawing better ratings than the supposed biggest star in wrestling.

Scrooge McSuck - April 30, 2005 03:52 AM (GMT)
As much as I like Kane, he has one horrible flaw... he's a Yes man. He does whatever the writing team wants him to do, which usually hurts him more than it helps him. (He's still over though, although Lita might hurt that)




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