Title: My wife made a great point
Description: about HHH
Big F'N Swigg - April 26, 2005 03:06 AM (GMT)
So while I watch RAW, my wife is dying yarn. She takes a moment to say this:
"You know what's wrong with this HHH angle? There's no end to it. HHH is so tough, he wants the belt... Where does it end? He can't go anywhere else. He's stuck at the top. He's made himself out to be the biggest and the baddest so much that no one will believe he can be anything else. He's such a prick that no one would believe a face turn. He's so much about the belt that his character has no depth. He's beaten everyone and made such a point out of it with his character that he has nowhere else to go. He's at the end of his career because he's gotten as high as you can get."
Which is true. HHH is the "King of the Mountain" in WWE, and his mountain is the remains of every other wrestlers heat. Every feud seems just the same as the last one.
If I recall correctly, this is why Rock left for Hollywood. Everything he did seemed stale. Too bad HHH can't go to Hollywood.
Note: I didn't teach my wife to say this. She hears me complain, but I haven't gotten into HHH so deep that she could remember all this.
Mad Dog - April 26, 2005 03:34 AM (GMT)
And just think. We've got 10 more years at least of him in the ring and 7-10 more World Title reigns to deal with.
Big F'N Swigg - April 26, 2005 10:53 PM (GMT)
Unfortunately.
I'm somehow stunned that his gimmick is simply the title. No mobility, no anything else, just the belt.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - April 26, 2005 11:37 PM (GMT)
Maybe their next angle should be Vince and Triple H as gay lovers. Not only would it tackle the sort of real social issue that the WWE loves to take on, but it wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
Scrooge McSuck - April 26, 2005 11:46 PM (GMT)
It's sad he gets nearly 15 minutes of promo time a week EVERY Week to say the same damn shit. One major reason why I'm condensing all my tapes by editing out commercials and promos, making it 96% Triple H free.
Mad Dog - April 28, 2005 09:51 PM (GMT)
I think the worst part is that there are actually a lot of sheep that buy into Triple H as being some legendary heel. I guess the 6 years of saying that over and over will effect people.
dynamite kido - April 28, 2005 10:01 PM (GMT)
This was from Loss on the Smarkschoice boards...
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HHH is a Flair clone, or at least he tries to be, but he doesn't master things like overconfidence and pacing. He usually turns off the characterization for his matches, which makes them boring even if they are fundamentally sound. You don't see HHH holding the ropes, cheating behind the referee's back and telling the crowd to shut up during the matches. Those are typically Southern heel staples. Ric Flair was a true Southern heel.
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This was in a thread about "Southern Style" but I think this sums up Trips as a heel and why he's not as good at it as he thinks he is. Of course though, the sheeps buy it.
Mad Dog - April 28, 2005 10:04 PM (GMT)
That and he basically gets treated like a face in feuds.
Big F'N Swigg - April 29, 2005 11:29 PM (GMT)
Here's another thought, too. Dibiase made the point in his shoot interview that wrestling at it's basic level is a morality play. Thinking this way, here are two flaws prevalent in mainstream wrestling, not just WWE:
Morality plays always show the weaknesses of the villains, not just the strengths. You see that though they play tough, they're still human. This is lacking in current booking, most likely because it makes the heel "look weak." The difference between the heels and the faces, though, should be that the faces aren't afraid to show that they're human. Look at classic Hogan: He wasn't afraid to admit that he worked hard, and relied on a higher power to help him. "Say your prayers and take your vitamins." Compare this to Dibiase, whose character didn't need to do the work because he would just buy his way out.
Also, morality plays also have the basic ideal of good triumphing over evil. It's a way to teach lessons in morality to people without preaching to them. The booking as of late has been missing this as well, as no matter what happens, HHH will overcome. Good doesn't always triumph. (Note: I realize that faces can't always win feuds, but wrongs must be righted, etc.) Wrestling should help to prove that people who cheat, though they may get ahead, will eventually be caught. That breaking the rules won't lead to long-term satisfaction or getting ahead in life.
The problem is, the "Russo-style" of booking doesn't always allow for this. But, in my opinion, crowds look for this kind of thing. At least until recently, American's have been raised on the ideal that "Good will always triumph over evil." That in the long run, the good guys will win. It's been part of society for a long time, and part of the reason my parents allowed me to watch wrestling. Also, a lot of people don't believe a lot of these "morals" anymore. Which is probably part of the reason that wrestling is why it is.
prof_plague - April 30, 2005 12:33 AM (GMT)
Thank you, thank you. I think that's best way to put it. DiBiase...is awesome.
Big F'N Swigg - April 30, 2005 01:51 AM (GMT)
Just think: It would've been a great angle after the WM XXI confrontation for HHH to go to Smackdown and meet with a Champion JBL. JBL rubs it in his face, and HHH tries beat JBL, but can't. We then see that HHH is actually human as he deals with the fact that he's no longer the top dog.
It's so much to work with when you book that way.