Title: Johnny Ace's new policy
Description: the height/weight requirement
Big F'N Swigg - December 13, 2004 04:24 AM (GMT)
So here's the question:
Should wrestlers, especially those in WWE, be offended by Johnny Ace's new policy of only hiring people over 6'0", 225? If you ask me, it's a slap in the face of sorts to the entire "industry" that Johnny Ace believes that anyone can be trained to be a wrestler.
What do you guys think?
Scrooge McSuck - December 13, 2004 04:27 AM (GMT)
I'll kidnap him for $100, and I'll kill him for $500.
dynamite kido - December 13, 2004 04:49 AM (GMT)
First off, why is Ace even in the position that he is? The main thing in his career that he did was put on very good matches in All Japan Pro Wrestling in the 90's. I give him all the credit in the world for doing that. But what does he know about ANYTHING when it comes to wrestling in the US? He NEVER drew in the US or even really in Japan. He's grossly overrated when people talk about his Japanese work and his stuff in the US is downright awful (at least what I have seen....). This just shuts out the WWE from having any type of Indy talent brought in and essentially missed out on, at least until it's too late. Plus, most policies in wrestling a HORRIBLE and serve nothing but to pissing off talent and treating them like children......who really gives a shit.
Big F'N Swigg - December 13, 2004 03:03 PM (GMT)
See, I thought that the only thing Johnny Ace did in his career was lick the right nuts in WCW. Now I know, and knowing is half the battle.
Seriously, though, this policy seems fairly insulting to me. Let's just say you're a wrestler who's over six foot tall, and you're above 225. According to this policy, youre not specially talented. You were just trained well. What an insult.
whitemilesdavis - December 13, 2004 05:48 PM (GMT)
I doubt that it's legal to make a discriminatory company policy like that. It's probably just a guideline they follow for their "prototype", which is nothing new for WWE. I would assume WWE would hire anyone who they though had a good chance of making money.
Mad Dog - December 13, 2004 05:54 PM (GMT)
It just shows how behind the times the WWF is. Wrestlers seem to be getting smaller and they want their Hosses. But I'm not surprised, their new attitude is "we'll sign bodybuilders and teach them how to wrestle."
Oh well maybe they'll wisen up when they have to start cutting large portions of the roster when they can't afford them anymore.
dynamite kido - December 13, 2004 06:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mad Dog @ Dec 13 2004, 11:54 AM) |
It just shows how behind the times the WWF is. Wrestlers seem to be getting smaller and they want their Hosses. But I'm not surprised, their new attitude is "we'll sign bodybuilders and teach them how to wrestle."
Oh well maybe they'll wisen up when they have to start cutting large portions of the roster when they can't afford them anymore. |
Or maybe they will learn when the bodybuilders can't work and start destroying workers in the ring......
Big F'N Swigg - December 13, 2004 06:21 PM (GMT)
If Holly can damage half the roster and still stay under contract without being over, some bodybuilders who have a little heat would probably last as well.
dynamite kido - December 13, 2004 06:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BigSwiggy @ Dec 13 2004, 12:21 PM) |
| If Holly can damage half the roster and still stay under contract without being over, some bodybuilders who have a little heat would probably last as well. |
You didn't hear Swiggy? Holly is apparently a locker room "enforcer" as laughable as that may be.
Mad Dog - December 13, 2004 06:41 PM (GMT)
I don't have a lot of hope for the future entertainment value of the WWF. I've looked over the OVW roster and it's awful. A lot of bodybuilders and guys they hired for their look.
dynamite kido - December 13, 2004 06:49 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mad Dog @ Dec 13 2004, 12:41 PM) |
| I don't have a lot of hope for the future entertainment value of the WWF. I've looked over the OVW roster and it's awful. A lot of bodybuilders and guys they hired for their look. |
They are seriously losing their mind at this point as far as signing talent and the future of the company. This theory is garbage and is limiting the kind of guys the company can even bring in. The wrestler's dictate the business, the business doesn't dictate the wrestler's..........they need to realize that.
Big F'N Swigg - December 13, 2004 06:55 PM (GMT)
I'm surprised that Bob "The enforcer" Holly hasn't hurt Johnny Ace yet.
This policy just sucks. It's like saying that just because you're seven feet tall you'll be an all-star center in the NBA. There's no validity to it. It makes me wonder though, does this policy qualify for jobbers as well?
dynamite kido - December 13, 2004 07:20 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BigSwiggy @ Dec 13 2004, 12:55 PM) |
I'm surprised that Bob "The enforcer" Holly hasn't hurt Johnny Ace yet.
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Ok, I can't really explain it.......but this had me laughing my ass off.
whitemilesdavis - December 13, 2004 09:42 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BigSwiggy @ Dec 13 2004, 12:55 PM) |
I'm surprised that Bob "The enforcer" Holly hasn't hurt Johnny Ace yet.
This policy just sucks. It's like saying that just because you're seven feet tall you'll be an all-star center in the NBA. There's no validity to it. It makes me wonder though, does this policy qualify for jobbers as well? |
You have to admit though, it'd be easier to get into the NBA if you were 7' tall. To dismiss anyone based solely on size is a bad idea, but if I had to build a pro-wrestler, I'd probably make him 6' - 225lbs.
Big F'N Swigg - December 13, 2004 10:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ Dec 13 2004, 03:42 PM) |
| QUOTE (BigSwiggy @ Dec 13 2004, 12:55 PM) | I'm surprised that Bob "The enforcer" Holly hasn't hurt Johnny Ace yet.
This policy just sucks. It's like saying that just because you're seven feet tall you'll be an all-star center in the NBA. There's no validity to it. It makes me wonder though, does this policy qualify for jobbers as well? |
You have to admit though, it'd be easier to get into the NBA if you were 7' tall. To dismiss anyone based solely on size is a bad idea, but if I had to build a pro-wrestler, I'd probably make him 6' - 225lbs.
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Yeah, it would be easier, but that's not an official guideline of the NBA. I mean, Alonzo Mourning was 6'10" and he was better than some 7'7" guys *coughShawnBradley* cough*. The ridiculousness comes when they won't sign guys that don't meet the guideline.
dynamite kido - December 13, 2004 11:16 PM (GMT)
To reference it this way.......
Any NBA team would allow a 6'8 center if he could play......regardless of the size of the center's around the league. Kinda like you don't see too many 6'4 PF's in the NBA, but Barkley was that size and is one of the greatest players of all time. The WWE is just setting themselves up to miss the boat on great talent and truely shows just how close minded the company is becoming.
Real F'n Show - December 14, 2004 12:27 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BigSwiggy @ Dec 13 2004, 12:55 PM) |
| I'm surprised that Bob "The enforcer" Holly hasn't hurt Johnny Ace yet. |
Someone REALLY needs to put Holly in his rightful place. Preferably Angle or Taker or Cena though. A Paul London or Nunzio would probably get fired for doing it (although I bet they could beat Hardcore's ass).
Scrooge McSuck - December 14, 2004 12:52 AM (GMT)
Cena sucks... stick him in a match with Kenzo the Murderer.
whitemilesdavis - December 14, 2004 01:59 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (dynamite kido @ Dec 13 2004, 05:16 PM) |
To reference it this way.......
Any NBA team would allow a 6'8 center if he could play......regardless of the size of the center's around the league. Kinda like you don't see too many 6'4 PF's in the NBA, but Barkley was that size and is one of the greatest players of all time. The WWE is just setting themselves up to miss the boat on great talent and truely shows just how close minded the company is becoming. |
I'm just having trouble believing WWE has set this policy in stone. If the right guy comes along who they think can draw, they'll sign him. They are just looking, and always have, for larger guys.
dynamite kido - December 14, 2004 06:38 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ Dec 13 2004, 07:59 PM) |
| QUOTE (dynamite kido @ Dec 13 2004, 05:16 PM) | To reference it this way.......
Any NBA team would allow a 6'8 center if he could play......regardless of the size of the center's around the league. Kinda like you don't see too many 6'4 PF's in the NBA, but Barkley was that size and is one of the greatest players of all time. The WWE is just setting themselves up to miss the boat on great talent and truely shows just how close minded the company is becoming. |
I'm just having trouble believing WWE has set this policy in stone. If the right guy comes along who they think can draw, they'll sign him. They are just looking, and always have, for larger guys.
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I wouldn't totally disagree with you, but apparently they don't think anyone that small can draw...........and I wouldn't necessarily disagree with them either. But, it's still a stupid policty anyway.
theintensifier - December 14, 2004 09:05 AM (GMT)
That is pretty weird that they'd have a height and weight limit above the nations average.
dynamite kido - December 14, 2004 04:58 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (theintensifier @ Dec 14 2004, 03:05 AM) |
| That is pretty weird that they'd have a height and weight limit above the nations average. |
Actually it makes perfect sense. They want their wrestlers to be bigger in size and stature than a regular person....
theintensifier - December 14, 2004 07:59 PM (GMT)
That's true, but the majority of the indy wrestling talent worth a damn are under those expectations. I couldn't list a ton of indy wrestlers that the WWE would be interested in with those expectations.
dynamite kido - December 14, 2004 09:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (theintensifier @ Dec 14 2004, 01:59 PM) |
| That's true, but the majority of the indy wrestling talent worth a damn are under those expectations. I couldn't list a ton of indy wrestlers that the WWE would be interested in with those expectations. |
That's exactly why most people think the policy is bullshit brudder.....