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Title: The Rock is done with wrestling
Description: SURPRISE!!!


Big F'N Swigg - February 9, 2005 11:59 PM (GMT)

ROCK COMMENTS ON WWE EXIT AND RELATIONSHIP WITH VINCE MCMAHON
by Mike Johnson @ 5:40:00 PM on 2/9/2005

In the new issue of Playboy, which hits the stands on 2/11, The Rock discusses a number of topics about his wrestling and acting career.

In an excerpt currently up on the Playboy website, The Rock is asked if there was any tension between he and Vince McMahon about his departure from World Wrestling Entertainment:

"Never. By the time this article comes out, I'll be done with him contractually, but Vince and I are very close. We worked together, my grandfather worked for his dad, and my dad worked for him. He's been as supportive as a dad to me. He knew I loved being in The Mummy Returns. I told him I wanted to break into films with The Scorpion King but that I'd wrestle as well.

I grew up in wrestling. I am proud that my grandfather and dad wrestled. But when I filmed The Scorpion King I worked through the week, and on Sunday I would fly somewhere to do Raw or a pay-per-view. I had no days off, and it almost killed me. I wanted to give 110 percent to acting, and after that I realized I'd have to choose."
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Oh well.

prof_plague - February 10, 2005 12:09 AM (GMT)
Oh....'tis a shame.

...:shrugs: Whatever. I'll just miss the mic time. 'Bout it.

Mad Dog - February 10, 2005 12:15 AM (GMT)
I'm not surprised.

I'd be sick of it too. Why wouldn't he be upset over coming back and helping out the younger guys only to have Triple H completely squash them a week later.

Scrooge McSuck - February 10, 2005 05:38 AM (GMT)
So no Sting v. The Rock at WM XXI? (cries like a bitch)

whitemilesdavis - February 10, 2005 01:38 PM (GMT)
More money for less work. Easy decision.

SamoaRowe - February 10, 2005 02:41 PM (GMT)
It's too bad that Blade: Trinity wasn't a bigger hit. Would've been nice to see Triple H start considering himself to be a box-office draw.

Scrooge McSuck - February 10, 2005 09:08 PM (GMT)
Well, Hogan tricked himself into thinking so even though No Holds Barred bombed, but I guess Triple H is too smart to do that... pfft.

SamoaRowe - February 10, 2005 09:10 PM (GMT)
I remember somebody made a comment about wanting to personally buy millions of tickets to Blade: Trinity if it meant Triple H taking more time off for movies.

Of course I remember while HHH was filming Blade:Trinity, he was the #1 Contender throughout Goldberg's reign anyway.

Scrooge McSuck - February 10, 2005 09:18 PM (GMT)
No problem... Hogan was champion during the entire filming of NHB.

Captain Ass - February 17, 2005 01:56 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ Feb 10 2005, 07:38 AM)
More money for less work. Easy decision.

AND his body won't take a major pounding either. Get our while you're young....that's the thing to do.

SamoaRowe - February 17, 2005 02:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Captain Ass @ Feb 16 2005, 07:56 PM)
QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ Feb 10 2005, 07:38 AM)
More money for less work. Easy decision.

AND his body won't take a major pounding either. Get our while you're young....that's the thing to do.

I think the Rock will be back sooner or later. It all depends on how well his next feature films do. So far they have been successful, but it would not be hard for him to go down that Steven Segal "straight to DVD" path and decide wrestling will be his better option again.

Besides, The Rock is young enough to mount a "Shawn Michaels" comeback in four years.

whitemilesdavis - February 18, 2005 02:13 PM (GMT)
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I don't know if this is actually old news or not, but apparently the Rock's contract with WWE has expired, and no one bothered to renew it. While it might seem a bit strange that they didn't at least try to work out some sort of deal with him, what is even more bizarre is that no one from Stamford even bothered to contact him about it.

Courtesy of ign.com:

The Rock: "Well, contractually, my contract was up, it came and went last year, at the end of the year last year, and it was an interesting way it all came out. I wasn't contacted or notified or anything like that. It wasn't until my own team had basically congratulated me [saying], 'Oh my God, what a wonderful career you've had. Congratulations!' It's like, 'Really. It's done?' I wish it would have gone down a little bit different. For that part, I'm sad about it…"

So let me see if I get this right. The Rock, who, along with Steve Austin, led the company into its glory years, years that made WWE a ton of money, years that made Vince McMahon an honest to goodness BILLIONAIRE, has his contract run out. And no one contacts him about a possible renewal or some sort of deal that would keep him off the free market. In fact, it's almost as if they simply didn't want to deal with him anymore.

Hmmm.

Not only that, but no one seems to know what, exactly, happened here. This isn't WCW, where guys had contracts that expired and no one knew about it (and in that case, they would simply roll over and give guys extra years of cash for doing nothing - see Sheik, Iron). Even Dave Meltzer, who knows everything about everything in this business, has no clue as to why Rock was never even contacted about some sort of renewal so they could continue to use him in some manner.

Something doesn't add up.

One could argue that it is more or less pointless to have Rock under a deal if he never appears, or if he can only appear once or twice a year. There is some logic to that, and it is understandable that the company wouldn't want to spend money when it is not getting something in return.

That's all well and good, but considering the very positive relationship Rock and WWE have had over the years, no one even called the guy to talk to him about it?

No, something doesn't add up.

There is, of course, a school of thought that another WWE superstar who is out making movies no longer wishes to be compared and contrasted to Duane Johnson. This person has a great deal of power within the company, and could conceivably see to it that Rock is persona non grata in the land formerly known as Titan.

That person, of course, is Triple H.

Now let me state for the record that I have no idea if this rumor is true or not. It certainly seems to me to be rather far-fetched. While I can see where someone would come up with this, it seems rather petty, seeing as the long-term health of the company is crucial to his pocketbook, to be so short-sighted as to lose a property as hot as Rock.

For sure I can see where someone could come to that conclusion. In fact, in recent weeks, it seems that Mr. Levesque has been on the verge of cracking right before our very eyes.

You'll note that Trips is now a ten time world champion. You might also recall that Ric Flair, considered by many to be the greatest wrestler of all time, has held a world title 16 (or whatever it is) occasions. If you think for even a nano second that Hunter has any plans on retiring before he hits 17 and "surpasses" Flair, then you're absolutely nuts. (Of course, the comedy there is that Hunter's number of reigns can't even be compared to Flair's, because the business is so radically different now than it was in Flair's heyday. In the 80's and 90's, titles really meant something. Today, they mean almost nothing. Quick, name the tag champs on Smackdown. I can't. And I run a WRESTLING WEBSITE for God's sake! To me, comparing Hunter's world title wins to Flair is like comparing Jerry Lawler's USWA title reigns to Flair - it's completely invalid, because the legitimacy of Flair's titles as compared to Hunter's or Lawler's is night and day.)

As if his desire to prove that he is the "greatest of all time" wasn't loony enough in that regard, consider this recent interview he did with Anthony Greff. As he is wont to do, he went totally berserk on the internet wrestling community, which he said was just a bunch of 12-year olds (meaning I should have retired 24 years ago): "The internet is a bunch of guys that want to be in our business but aren't. They never have been, never will be, don't know anybody who is, and even if they did, it's somebody that is either bitter or doesn't really have an inside track anyway." Hmmm...he seems awfully vocal against a group of people who have so little nice to say about him.

He also claimed that the reason guys like RVD or Booker T weren't big stars is because they couldn't connect with the fans, and that no one could just "make stars." So sayeth the man: "Nobody in this business, Vince McMahon included, makes stars in this business except the stars themselves...Stone Cold was hugely popular before the office ever got a hold of him. It's the same thing with me and the same thing with a lot of guys. That's the way it works and anybody that says this guy holds me down or the office doesn't push me or anything, need to look in the mirror and say it's all on me."

You know, I seem to recall that before Hunter "hit it big" he was a background player in DX, playing second fiddle to Shawn Michaels. I don't remember him "getting over" with anyone; I remember him being just another face in the crowd. Then he suddenly was getting new music, new entrances, a bunch of t-shirts with catchphrases. Oh yes, and wins over every single big name on the roster. Clean wins, mind you. Then he went on a tear with a seemingly endless streak of clean pins over Mick Foley, who was one of the hottest guys in the company. As you might recall, this culminated when HHH "retired" Mick Foley.

Now maybe he doesn't feel this way, but I'd call that Vince McMahon "making a star."

Perhaps the most telling incident was on a recent episode of The Big Idea on CNBC, host Donnie Deutsch brought up Hunter being married to Stephanie, which agitated him quite a bit. Hunter claimed, as he always does when this is brought up, that he was already a big star before they even started dating. He felt it was unfair that people always brought that up.

And I think that, more than anything, is something that will drive Hunter bonkers until the end of time: no matter what he does, no matter how many great matches he has (and there have been plenty), no matter how main events he's in (tons), no matter how many world titles he holds (whatever), at the end of the day, most knowledgeable fans will always view him as second rate, and the only reason he remains a star is because he married the boss' daughter.

I have to believe that drives him insane more than comparisons to The Rock ever could.




This is an angle that I hadn't seen yet. Taken from RD Reynolds atwrestlecrap.

Big F'N Swigg - February 19, 2005 10:08 PM (GMT)
That's some interesting reading on HHH, there. Good conspiracy theory.

whitemilesdavis - February 19, 2005 11:04 PM (GMT)
I don't totally buy into it, but you do have to ask; One of the biggest draws in the HISTORY of the business is leaving the company. Now I don't question letting him go, because it's not like he was adding anything at this point, but don't you think Vince would have at least called him? Worked out some big angle for his retirement, threw him a party, something?




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