So far the card looks like this:

Jarrett vs Nash for the title
Styles vs Daniels Ironman Match for the X Belt
AMW vs Kash & Hoyt
Hardy vs Abyss: Full Metal Mayhem for #1 Contendership
Monty & DDP vs Scott Hall & Bobby Roode
Dustin Rhodes vs Raven
Skipper vs Petey Williams
Shane & Kazarian vs BG James & Jeff Hammond

With Team Tracy vs Team Trinity in the pre-show.


Looks a bit overloaded to me, what do you guys think?

Scott Hall & Bobby Roode?!? What the hell, now Hall is a Cuban-Canadian? I need to stop drinking... is what he would say. (nervous chuckle)

Why is Hall off the show off the show now?

(according to the Observer anyway

I can take a wild guess. *glug glug glug*

Yeah. These days I don't like to assume things like that.


And what the hell was with that match anyway? Hall and Roode vs. Monty and DDP ???

Christ. Reminds of one of those New Japan tag matches where they'll have three stars and a young kid to do the job


TONIGHT! IN THE BUDOKAN! Yuji Nagata and Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Masahiro Chono and..............Hirooki Goto.

I mean, yeah, guess who's staring at the lights there - thats what that match makes me think of

I think it was to get Hall in a match that couldn't put the blame entirely on him, and have someone do the cealn job (Roode).

Hall is off the show, because he got so ripped on a tour of Korea recently that he had to be hospitalized. They announced Roode's new partner, but I forget who it is. I'm 99% sure it's someone else in Team Canada, I want to say Johnny Devine, but I wouldn't swear to it. This PPV should be the least of the ones they've run thus far, based on the card, but everyone has talked shit about each PPV they've had going in, and each one has done better than expected.

I would add in the factor "Blind love for something everyone knows is ending", like my sudden love for WCW in 2001 even though I went cold turkey the week Russo became booker (I have yet to view a Russo-booked Nitro/Thunder).

Elix Skipper gets to be the bright spot on a card shortly before a company dies twice now. Pretty funny. His match with Kid Romeo against Kidman and rey was the shit, check that out if y'all haven't.

Anyone ordering this tonight? I'm probably going over a buddies house of mine to check this out tonight. I'll try and through up a review sometime between tonight and tomorrow before RAW.

I still don't have PPV access, but if I did, I wouldn't order it until I see some reviews from unbias people (meaning no one on the you-know-what who sucks on TNA's proverbial teet).

Nash/Jarrett is just too bad for me to order a 1 match show for $30.

A friend of mine is taping it for me.

I think Abyss/Hardy could be fun if Hardy bumps like he usually did back in the WWE when they had all those ladder matches. Abyss is the perfecy opponent for him too. Skipper/Petey will be good, and Skipper's been on a roll as of late. AMW vs. Kid Kash and Dallas could be alright, I guess. And of course, the match EVERYONE is buying the show for, Daniels/Styles, which is almost guarenteed to be excellent.

I shall post a review as well, as soon as I watch it.

Hardy did bump like a mofo, but blew the big death bump. He did dive off the TNATron, though. AJ vs. Daniels was great, witha somewhat anti-climatic finish. MOTYC for sure though. Everything else was meh.

Taken from someone else...

Skipper beat Petey with the Krytonite Krunch called the Sudden Death by Tenay

BG James and Jeff Hammond beat Shane and Kazarian after Kazarian ate Sweet Shane Music and Hammond hit his incredibley gay running around like a car elbow drop

Raven beat Rhodes in the WORST fucking match of the night and possibly of the year. Rhodes sold NOTHING. He didn't even look uncomfortable in Raven's anklelock.

Abyss beat Hardy in the Full Metal Mayhem match. They should quit booking Hardy as a risk taker since 1/2 the roster can do it better. Only thing that looked marginally cool was Abyss overhead belly to belly'd him over the top and he missed the table with his body, breaking it with his legs and flat bumping on the concrete.

DDP and Monte Brown beat Team Canada in a match that looked better than I expected, after a Pounce and a top rope Diamond Cutter.

Style beat Daniels in sudden death with the Styles Clash. They seemed to try to channel the overplayed locked in submission as time runs out combined with Austin/Hart with Styles bleeding and passing out in the Koji Clutch as time ran out

Apparently, Jarrett beat Nash after hitting him with... you won't believe it. A CELLO! You know, one of those really big ass violin type things. Overbook-a-mania is running wild!

WAIT... ITS NOT OVER??!

As much as this pains me to say..... I found enjoyment in both Hardy and Jarrett's matches. And, even thought Jarrett needs to drop the title like nobody's business, Nash wasn't the guy to transition it to. So I found that ok. But they did something right, cause the crowd was INTO everything, which is why I got sucked into the match. Even BILLY GUNN got a huge reaction. And X-Pac's pop was seriously off the charts, which is pretty much inexplainable at this point.

Two words: Fucking. Sheep.

I didn't watch, and from the looks of things, I probably won't. It doesn't look at all like a show I'd like, but from what I've read, they are pleasing their crowd. If that is true, then that's what matters. Screw the smarks. They have to go out there and give the crowd what they want. More power to them.

Yeah, Nash had to lose. One major flaw I see in TNA booking right now is that there is noone capable of holding the title right now other than Jarrett. NO one.

Kinda like HHH/Steiner and HHH/Nash in 2003. It's a lose-lose situation for everyone, so just let the champion retain since he can at least move around... usually.

I dunno. They were very vocal AND split during both the Skipper/Petey matches and the AJ/Daniels match. Daniels and Petey getting support strikes me as being anything but "sheep."

The crowd is full of a bunch of idiot marks. Idiot Marks = Sheep. No real smark fans would cheer Jarrett OR Nash.

Well, I did watch last night and it was pretty much what I expected the show to be. It didn't stand up to Turning Point OR Final Resolution as far as overall show either. Here's how I saw it....

Skipper vs. Petey - Well, considering that Skipper seems to have doing well since the cage match and Petey's been on a decent roll in TNA lately I did expect a decent match. I was fairly dissappointed in this one. Skipper just wasn't on his A game in this one (Let's face it....his A game would be like Daniels or AJ's C game at best.) and Petey wasn't going all apeshit in this one either. Too many botches in this one, and I wasn't too keen on the ending. Hell, they could have hyped up a little better than Skipper has a "new & improved" finisher too....it would have helped. **

BG/Hammonds vs. Kazarian/Shane - Well this is what I expected.....a stinking pile of shit. Horrible match, but I will give Kazarian his props as if it wasn't for him trying to go out of his way to make people in this one look good.....it would have been totally unwatchable. *

Raven vs Rhodes - WOW....just WOW. Seriously, if TNA consider's Raven to be one of their top guys in the company....then Rhodes should be fired. He totally no sold all of Raven's offense and he ruined what otherwise could have been a good brawl if anything. This is easily Rhodes's worst appearance to date with TNA and his worst performance in a match in years. 3/4*

Abyss vs. Hardy - This was your typical watch Jeff do shitty highspots match. I must admit though that at least this match was booked remotely correct with Abyss winning and Jeff having to do major highspots to put a hurtin on Abyss(considering that Hardy is probably the worst brawler of ALL TIME....I'm pleased THAT was kept to a minimum.) Not my kinda match.....but at least Abyss went over, so now he gets a NWA Title shot on a future IMPACT. THIS folks is where Jarrett should be losing this belt.......that and it would make IMPACT actually....you know.....look important. **

DDP/Monty vs. Team Canada - Now this was really a good idea. Putting guys that you are pushing as your main eventers (DDP/Monty) against a team that can make them look like a million bucks. Nothing special......but it did it's job. **1/4

Styles vs. Daniels 30 minute Ironman match - Well, this was the reason to buy/watch this PPV and it wasn't dissappointing to me at all. I enjoyed the ways that they did the pins and everything for the most part came off as good. I was rooting for Daniels in this one as well, but to no avail as I figured that TNA's golden boy would pull out the win here(not necessessarily a bad thing). Good back and forth with awesome selling on both parts to put out the match of the PPV IMO. ****

Nash/Jarrett - This match had "Worst Match of the Year" projections from the time it was announced. It wasn't that bad and it was actually a little better than I expected it to be. That is until all the overbooking took over with Billy Gunn(What the fuck are THEY going to call this idiot) and Sean Waltman(Who I don't mind as long as he's not half assing it in the ring). Oh, and it's been mentioned....but Waltman's pop was mystifying. I couldn't believe what I heard. Probably the biggest pop I've heard on a TNA PPV EVER. *1/2.

Not a bad PPV overall, as it WAS entertaining(god, that sounds terrible) and had some moments. For $30? Probably not worth it, but I figure that the between the AJ/Daniels match and the rest of the stuff being watchable....it wasn't too bad. Hopefully they will make up for the lack of in ring stuff on this PPV at Destination X.

By the way PM me if you are looking for a copy of this show. I got em available now.

It was a sympathy pop. I'd pop for him too, he's been in close proximity to Chyna's pseudo-ladyparts, that takes some courage.

So should TNA book for the smarks (who hate the company) or the "idiot marks" who appear to be willing to support TNA?

Plus, it's not like they don't throw us a bone at least once every PPV. This one of course being Daniels vs. AJ.

It's a toss up situation. While TNA will often give the "mark" fans what the want (anything), they will usually book a big match most smarks want. This month, however, they only put one match I would want to see, and according to most reports, it wasn't the show stealing match I expected.

I can sort of agree with that. It does look like an extra special bad PPV to me. But I wouldn't fault the fans for enjoying themselves.

Jarrett: Hmm... the crowd loved seeing me vs. Nash. NOTHING BUT US IN THE MAIN EVENT FOR A YEAR!

I can easily see a bad side to crowds loving everything.

And if the crowd continues to eat it up, good for them.

Except they will lose fans who like good WRESTLING, not a walking stiff and a legend-in-his-own-mind.

How could you possibly argue that they should not try to please the audience that they presently have?

Ugh...

How many people watch TNA? Generally fans who live in the area, or internet fans. Most internet wrestling fans are smarks, which is what TNA used to worry about (hence booking lots of X-Division matches). Without the smarks, they lose a hood majority of their audience.

Remember WCW? Turned to such shit they lost pretty much all of their fans except the ones who had no idea about anything.

The fact of the matter is that they shouldn't try to please the casual fan AND the smarks. They should just go out and put out the kind of product that is remotely different to WWE. They should have matches that the WWE couldn't or wouldn't put on. They should be following Paul E's theory of since you can't match the WWE dollar for dollar, you should try and better them in match quality and interviews. You should stay as far away as possible from crash TV as they can as well. If they did that, and did most things logically(aka keeping the title on JJ even though he's been set up to loose the title numerous times) they would be on the track to the right thing. Since it's on FSN, I would assume that they would try and make their company more SPORT oriented by using the time limit and constantly showing the contenders to said titles. They should stay away from doing as much "sports entertainment" or just angles and such that steer away from the in ring. Like instead of having a typical "soap opera" storyline, they should instead have guys fight over titles or "who the best" is. Personally I think this would attract more people that would catch them on FSN, who may be more interested in it if it were presented as sport.

I pretty much agree with that, and that is more of a show that I would like to see. All I'm saying is that it is bad business to turn off your present fans while you go try to please new people. The idea would be to excite your present audience to the point that they tell all their friends, and grow the audience that way. Now, I don't think the present audience wants to see Nash / Jarrett again, so we're lucky in that respect, but they do want to see X-pac (who I thinks sucks tremendously) so TNA should give them X-pac.

Give them X-Pac in small doses. Over-using him and people will get tired of the character he's been playing for 10 years. Otherwise... I don't see anything good out of X-Pac/Syxx/Syxx-Pac/Whatever his name is now.

They better make sure he can cut it in the ring for right now......one mountain at a time.

X-Pac is a hard thing to deal with for TNA. On one hand he's X-Pac and on the other he's worked his ass off during his few appearances and had good matches.

It basically all depends on how he is in the ring (a.k.a if he can still "go"). I basically ignored that comment just in case he can't, since I wanted to give a somewhat positive "how to use X-Pac without getting bored again" idea.

Nothing can be worse than Brian Lawler fucking up the good character they wrote for him. He just couldn't pull the heel gimmick off for some reason.

Brian Chrostpher/Lawler was never that good to begin with IMO. The only time I enjoyed him was when he was in Too Cool, which got old after 5-6 months. He's not that good in the ring (he's not good period, actually) and he's too damn short to look intimidating.

Hell, I would go as far to say that Christopher maybe the most overrated wrestler to ever come out of Memphis. Except for Lawler of course.

Apparently Mabel/Viscera is pretty big in Memphis (more ways than 1), so he's a good contender I think.