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Mad Dog - August 6, 2008 04:57 AM (GMT)
It disgusts me that ESPN has a section titled FAVRE on their news ticker. Just die and go away already Bret.

Anyways:

AFC:

East: New England
North: Pittsburgh
South: Jacksonville
West: San Diego

Wild Card: Buffalo and Indianapolis

NFC:

East: Dallas
North: Minnesota
South: Tampa Bay
West: Seattle

Wild Card: Green Bay and New Orleans

Erick Von Erich - August 6, 2008 05:58 AM (GMT)
What?! No Bronco love?! Mike Shanahandjob just assured us mindless clones that the Donkeys will make the playoffs again. Same old shit: "we've got a lot of talent on this team" as they'll stumble to another 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 finish.

Favre reminds me of Warren Schmidt--- aka Jack Nicholson in "About Schmidt". After retiring, ol' Warren was feeling worthless, so he showed up at the office one day, asking if he could help out with all the old projects he was involved with. The boss told him: "nope, we've got it under control" and went back to work. Warren kept asking to help in SOME way...but there was no need for him to stick around. He couldn't move on in his life.

So we'll title the 2008 NFL season "About Favre". Which means at some point Favre will wind up in a hot tub with a nekkid Kathy Bates.

Mad Dog - August 6, 2008 06:06 AM (GMT)
I don't think they have the running backs to make it work this year. Michael Pittman is unacceptable as a guy getting any kind of carries. I don't think Young is capable of staying healthy this year. And I think Jay Cutler will improve this year as a QB but he's going to be throwing to Darrell Jackson and Samie Parker all year. Then one defense. John Lynch is older than dirt. The front 4 are pretty weak. Champ Bailey and Dre Bly are overrated and overpaid. So I think the defense is going to struggle a lot. I think 7-9 or 8-8 is a solid place for them.

Erick Von Erich - August 6, 2008 03:56 PM (GMT)
Lynch was released, last week. He wasn't slated to start at all.

They also have a rookie starting at left tackle in Ryan Clady. Michael Pittman was moved to fullback, with Selvin Young, Andre Hall and rookie Ryan Torain getting the most looks at RB. Young has speed, but didn't display any power when hitting piles, last year. But at least they got rid of that turd Mike Bell. Ben Hamilton's supposed to be back at guard and 100%, so that should help.

They have a new defensive system... AGAIN. Bly might be overrated and overpaid, but not Bailey.

Cutler's main weapon in Brandon Marshall, who was suspended for three games, yesterday. Over 100 catches and 1300 yards, last year. They'll miss him. Keary Colbert, Brandon Stokley, rookie Eddie Royal, along with Parker and Jackson don't instill fear in many defenses. TE Tony Scheffler has been yakking a lot, saying he's so improved, yadda yadda... but at last look, Scheffler still lacked consistency and maturity (spiking the ball in the end zone and celebrating when the team was getting the shit kicked out of them by the Chargers).

Shanahan REALLY wants Cutler to become a star. Last year, he game-planned as if Cutler were someone like Favre or Randall Cunningham in his prime. At times, he called plays that only a certain former Broncos QB with a gimpy leg and bad haircut was making in his 8th or 9th year. Cutler's not that. The sooner Shanahan stops game-planning around an unproven QB, the better they'll be.

Front four is completely unproven, save for Elvis Dumervil. Jarvis Moss, DeWayne Robertson and Marcus Thomas don't excite me. Moss and Thomas are second year men and still question marks. Getting Robertson doesn't upgrade the line at all.

Plus, a new kicker. Jason Elam was always suspect between 40-49 yards and had lost something in the past two years. Ever since he was injured on a goofy fake play in 2006, he's had trouble. So they have new kicker Matt Prater (who?).

They could conceivably start the season at 1-2 or 0-3.

Mad Dog - August 7, 2008 03:27 AM (GMT)
Yeah, sorry. ESPN didn't bother to remove Lynch from the depth chart when I was looking at it.

Mad Dog - August 7, 2008 05:20 AM (GMT)
Looks like Favre is headed to the NY Jets.

dynamite kido - August 7, 2008 03:55 PM (GMT)
That's going to be weird as fuck.

Erick Von Erich - August 7, 2008 04:57 PM (GMT)
Really...are we expected to believe that Favre was sitting at home over the past few months and thinking: "I want to come out of retirement and play for the JETS"...??!

dynamite kido - August 7, 2008 05:08 PM (GMT)
I have no idea what the hell is going on anymore with the Favre stuff. One sure fire way of him getting his consecutive games streak broken? Play for the Jets.

Metrodome - August 7, 2008 10:08 PM (GMT)
I love how all the fans of shitty baseball teams start discussing football early :P

Erick Von Erich - August 11, 2008 04:34 AM (GMT)
Football's pissed me off the last three or four years. Last year, especially. But Denver is a HUGE football town and it can't be helped.

Plus, I went to college across the street from Mile High Stadium. We had no football team, so the Donkeys were sort of "our team". Whereas, on a traditional campus, the student body talked about their NCAA team, on Mondays we all talked about our NFL team.

The S.S. Nintendo - August 11, 2008 12:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Metrodome @ Aug 7 2008, 06:08 PM)
I love how all the fans of shitty baseball teams start discussing football early :P

I'm a 49ers fan, so you can easily figure that one out.

Mad Dog - August 11, 2008 01:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
Football's pissed me off the last three or four years.


What's had you so pissed off with football?

dynamite kido - August 11, 2008 01:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Metrodome @ Aug 7 2008, 04:08 PM)
I love how all the fans of shitty baseball teams start discussing football early :P

C'mon, don't act like the Twins have been good forever.

Metrodome - August 11, 2008 05:54 PM (GMT)
Since 2002 anyway. I'm just fucking with you guys, I have a draft auction coming up this weekend anyway. Just sick of ESPN and Brett Favre...

Erick Von Erich - August 11, 2008 08:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mad Dog @ Aug 11 2008, 06:18 AM)
QUOTE
Football's pissed me off the last three or four years.


What's had you so pissed off with football?

The constant influx of worthless fantasy football stats being displayed as "news". No matter what game I'm watching, I'll be interrupted to know that some slug from the Texans has finished with 89 yards rushing on the day.

Worst was two years ago when a crawl on the bottom of the screen informed that me the KICKER from the Jets was 2/2 on his PATs. The bottom was officially scraped on that tidbit.

Unless someone throws for over 300 yards, or rushes/catches for over 150, I don't need to hear about it. I like seeing big INTs or fumble returns for TDs. But can live without seeing TJ Housmanzadah cathing an 11 yard TD pass.

Plus, I'm sick of the Donkeys constant smug attitude and annual talks about how they've "got too much talent on this team" and how they think they have no personnel problems.

dynamite kido - August 11, 2008 08:31 PM (GMT)
I know you were Metro, but I just had to give it back to you a bit.

EvE, I agree completely with the fantasy stat shit. I used to play fantasy sports a lot from like 9th - 11 grade. Now though, I fucking hate it. I have no interest to get into fantasy sports and I hate how TV has to be consumed with it. They used to have their own seperate fantasy shows, which now I assume are there including the stats on ESPN.

Erick Von Erich - August 11, 2008 10:31 PM (GMT)
Of course, THE biggest reason why Fantasy Football is horseshit: it ignores the majority of the team. Only QBs, RBs, TEs and WRs are worth a damn in the world of "fantasy" football.

Lumping the defense under one generic category is also ridiculous. Thus, your defense was good if you had some dork like Deltha O'Neal on it. A guy who picked off a lot of passes, but was absolutely terrible in coverage and tackling.

Offensive linemen are ignored completely. IMO, those are the most important guys on any team. I was thrilled when Dwayne Carswell caught two TD's in one game in 2005. Carswell, a former TE, was converted to LG that year and was not available on anybody's "fantasy" roster.

"Reality" football involves the entire team and actually winning a fucking game. Not this worthless stat baloney. Warren Moon would've been an awesome fantasy QB. Check to see how many playoff games and Super Bowls ol' Warren won.

Fantasy football would be a perfect marriage for that other worthless football offspring: Arena Football. They could add bonus points for 1st down celebrations and the other raging bullshit in that league.

Mad Dog - August 12, 2008 04:31 AM (GMT)
Fantasy football does have individual player defense leagues. And you have to consider the team the guy plays for when you draft them. So offensive lines tend to always play into your decision on QBs or running backs.

I tend to prefer fantasy baseball anymore though.

Erick Von Erich - August 12, 2008 05:18 AM (GMT)
How do individual defensive players score points in Fantasy Football? Sacks and INTs? Or do they base it off of net yardage allowed? 3rd down defense percentage? I'm not being sarcastic... suckas gots ta' know.

I'm not big on fantasy baseball, but it's 100% appropriate to the game. Baseball is all about stats and numbers. The batting title, triple crown numbers, no-hitters, Rennie Stenett going 7 for 7...all that stuff.

Oh, watched a little bit of tonight's Packers-Bengals game on ESPN. It had no sound at times! That was nice. Then the audio kicked in and I remembered how much I hate MNF on ESPN. The yuks just keep on coming with that yukky yukmeister Tony Kornholer! I certainly hope he talks about his fantasy football team again!! Oh Tony, you've done it again! Yuk yuk.

Mad Dog - August 12, 2008 05:39 AM (GMT)
With Individual player defense it tends to be tackles, assists, INTs and sacks. Value varies depending. I've only done it once and the roster was huge and hard to manage so I tend to just stick to team defense leagues.

Fantasy football does have the strength of being really customizable and there's all kinds of leagues floating around out there.

Mad Dog - August 12, 2008 05:42 AM (GMT)
But I will say. For as much as I love playing fantasy football I loath it on tv. It doesn't need whole shows devoted to it. And you don't even really get good fantasy advice from those shows anyway. They pretty puke out the obvious and toss in the usual ESPN bias to everything.

Take Brandon Marshall for example. I plucked this guy off of waivers when last season started. No one knew a thing about him. I listen to a podcast where the guys actually know the players and they had mentioned Jay Cutler looked for him a lot. So, I got useful information. All those tv shows devoted to fantasy football and I never heard his name once. So not only do the shows annoy me to begin with, they also give shit for information.

Erick Von Erich - August 12, 2008 03:55 PM (GMT)
...and annudder thing!! People are so fucking concerned about their fantasy players scoring points for them, that they don't give a shit about who actually wins or loses each game. As long as their QB throws for 3 TDs.

To me that bastardizes and commercializes the game. No matter what level of football is played, the first thing someone asks after a game is "who won". Little league, high school, college, semi-pro, NFL, CFL, whatever. They don't ask "who had the best stats".

Have a fantasy football TV channel and discuss draft picks, waivers and all that lame shit. But keep these stupid stat crawls and updates the hell away from my viewing experience. It's not news. It's crack for fantasy football junkies..... not for football fans.

dynamite kido - August 13, 2008 01:15 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I just have a hard time thinking that Fantasy Football is that in the mainstream. I mean, considering they show it during games and recap shows, are we supposed to assume that more schmucks play fantasy than people just tuning in to watch the actual game?

I also hate the fact about people not caring who win or lose games. I hate the usual "Hey man, you know if the Packers won?" and only to get a reply like "Don't know, don't care....Favre threw for 4 TD's and I started him". Shut the fuck up loser, you're playing the sports fan equivalent to D&D.

So in closing, yeah give the fuckers their own show if they must just keep it off my fucking screen when I wanna watch a game.

ProjectLoveHewitt - August 30, 2008 07:08 AM (GMT)
Anyone else wanna slap Chad Johnson Ocho Cinco in the face?

Erick Von Erich - August 30, 2008 06:12 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ProjectLoveHewitt @ Aug 30 2008, 12:08 AM)
Anyone else wanna slap Chad Johnson Ocho Cinco in the face?

The funniest part, to me, is that "Ocho Cinco" is incorrect. It should be "Ochenta y Cinco".

dynamite kido - August 31, 2008 06:07 PM (GMT)
I just like how the Bengals have several players that have seemed to lost their mind....management included.

Anyone else thinking that Rudi Johnson is loving the fact that he was released by them?

ProjectLoveHewitt - August 31, 2008 06:45 PM (GMT)
I would be.

ProjectLoveHewitt - August 31, 2008 06:47 PM (GMT)
Sorry for the double post here but I just read that Fred Taylor got arrested. Lol.

Erick Von Erich - September 5, 2008 06:19 AM (GMT)
Attention, Jim Zorn: there is something called the Game Clock that should be considered in your coaching strategy. When you are down by 9 points with 6:30 left and have the ball, you should NOT be taking the full 45 seconds between plays. That's how you end up with an un-makeable 4th and 13 at the 45 with 2:02 left.

BTW, I'm not familiar with Redskins QB Jason Campbell. Curious if he's aware of the significance of a black QB with #17 for the Redskins.

ProjectLoveHewitt - September 8, 2008 12:09 AM (GMT)
Sounds like Tom Brady is done for the year. I guess quite a few defenses are going to be very happy they don't have to face the Pats at full strength.

Regardless, today has been pretty good. The Carolina/San Diego game was fantastic and who else has thought that Seattle is headed towards a sub .500 season if they keep playing the same.

Metrodome - September 8, 2008 01:26 AM (GMT)
this fucking kills my fantasy team

Erick Von Erich - September 9, 2008 03:33 PM (GMT)
Only problem I have with Eddie Royal molesting the Raiders and helping the Donkeys win 41-14...is that it was on Monday Night and national TV. Now everybody knows about him.

ProjectLoveHewitt - September 9, 2008 03:56 PM (GMT)
No kidding. I went to pick him up and nope, already taken by some other jackass.

But if he keeps putting up stats like that, Rookie of the Year for sure.

Erick Von Erich - September 9, 2008 05:28 PM (GMT)
We need to see Cutler and Royal carve up a decent team-- like the Chargers --before we get excited.

Brandon Marshall's coming back, next week. So other teams will have to worry about him, as well. All the scouts with new film of Royal might over-plan and get burned by Marshall.

Can't recall the last time the Donkeys started a rookie at WR in their opener. Papers here are invoking the name of Rick Upchurch in 1975. After the Donkey WR draft busts of the the past ten years (see: Marcus Nash, Adrian Madise, Munner Moore, Chris Cole, Kevin Kasper, Darius Watts, etc), it's nice to see they have two draft picks starting and excelling at WR.

ProjectLoveHewitt - September 14, 2008 03:25 AM (GMT)

Erick Von Erich - September 15, 2008 10:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
09/16/2008--- Ed Hochuli's acknowledgement that he erred on a call late in Sunday's San Diego-Denver game will mean lower grades for one of the NFL's highest profile referees.

"Officials are held accountable for their calls. They are graded on every play of every game," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday. "Ed has been an outstanding official for many years, but he will be marked down for this call. Under our evaluation system, an official's grades impact his status for potentially working the playoffs and ultimately whether or not he is retained."

The play occurred with the Broncos at the Chargers 1-yard-line in the final minute. Denver quarterback Jay Cutler dropped back to pass, the ball slipped out of his hands, bounced off the grass and into the arms of San Diego linebacker Tim Dobbins.

Hochuli ruled it an incomplete pass. Replay ruled it a fumble, but it was spotted at the 10-yard line, where the ball hit the ground, and given to Denver because the rules did not permit possession to be awarded to San Diego because the whistle had blown.

Denver went on to score, convert a 2-point conversion and win 39-38.

The play also is likely to be reviewed in the offseason by the league's competition committee, which normally reviews all controversial plays.

Guessing Hochuli won't be working any Donkey games in the near future.

Keeping up wih my belief that all refs are complete frickin' idiots. Hochuli added some level of respect to the position in recent years. With his famous guns and day job as a lawyer, he seemed like someone you cold respect. Unlike the other dolts who work at Subway or attend a tollbooth during the week. But idiocy knows no bounds.

Erick Von Erich - October 5, 2008 07:44 PM (GMT)
Heading out to watch the Donkeys-Bucs game in about 3 minutes. If the Donkeys lose at home to That Shitty Qb Who Plays for the Bucs, I will flush my head in a toilet filled with shit*





* solids, preferrably.

ProjectLoveHewitt - October 5, 2008 07:55 PM (GMT)
Huh... I probably shouldn't say I'm a Bucs fan then.

Erick Von Erich - October 14, 2008 04:42 PM (GMT)
Nothing against the Bucs...just that Shitty QB. The Bucs are actually kinda' cool, with their Giant Pirate Ship and all.




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