Title: The Top 20 Movies You Hate To Admit You Love....
Description: Your top-twenty guilty pleasures........
Tempest - September 29, 2007 12:09 AM (GMT)
Lets face it; movies, music, TV, wresting, videogames- they're all extremely subjective hobbies. Within them can come mountains of gold or mountains of crap- sometimes in equal measure. But, with any form of entertainment can come the so-called "guilty pleasures"- you know what they are. They're the movies, games, music, etc, with that "so bad its good" quality that helps override any natural distaste you would otherwise have towards them. These are the forms of entertainment you hide from people, the movies you keep on the lowest shelf, the kinds of things you don't like to talk about at parties, the pieces of shit that have wormed their way into your heart and cuddled up next to your unconscious mind- somehow convincing you that they're
good.
You can lie to yourself. You can beg to your friends to just "give it a second chance" but make no mistake, these are your guilty pleasures. And now I'm going to spelunk the minds of middle-America to attempt to dig out the top-twenty guiltiest of guilty pleasures. Wish me luck- for when I return from this expedition into the pits of insanity I could be a shattered man.

20.
Mighty Morphing Power Rangers: The MovieWhat Is It? The natural culmination of America's fascination with second-run Japanese children shows. We all know what the Power Rangers are. But this; this is the Power Rangers on a medium sized (more expensive than a Happy Meal) budget. And its pretty obvious the people making it didn't know what to waste it on first; a completely extraneous "sky-boarding" (their word not mine) sequence, a fight scence against a bunch of purple creatures (made out of what appears to be that goopy stuff you get from a gumball machine) that splatter on impact, and a cutting edge CGI Powerzord that looks like the most cutting edge Nintendo 64 cutscene graphics ever top off the most ludicrous bits. The acting and story are about as good as you'd expect them to be; which is, if you've ever seen the show, not good.
I don't want to go into too many details, mostly because living through this monstrosity of a movie once is enough. But lets just say, a new bad guy named Ivan Ooze (yeah, that's actually his name) a big purple dude with a bad attitude is discovered in an egg buried underneath Angel Grove. He takes over from Rita Repulsa and Lord Zedd- the two idiots who were in charge before, breaks into the Power Ranger's command center, wrecks up the place and critically injures Zordon- the Ranger's leader. The Ranger's begin to lose their powers and need to get in touch with the "true source of thier power"- the animal's inside of them to regain them. Somehow this involves going back in time, meeting up with the mandatory "wake Dad up a bit" hot chick, fighting dinosaur skeletons, human-like bird creatures, and big dudes made of rock. All this leads to them becoming ninjas, or something. If that made any logical sense to you let me know. If anything the sub-plot about the Rangers going back in time is an excuse to do two things; extend the plot further than it logically should, thereby extending the running time and to show off the film's overinflated budget by having not one, but three big action scenes. The worst part of all this is hearing the mandatory hot chicks spew her pseudo-animism bullshit for several scenes as she's helping the Rangers get in touch with their animal selves. Its like every bad "Indian Spiritualism" talk in a Steven Seagal movie, but somehow made ten times stupider by the fact the woman speaking it looks like your average FHM model.
But that's not the worst part. Not by a long shot. On Earth Ooze has been brainwashing the adults of Angel Grove into digging up his own version of the Ranger's robots- by handing out enchanted bottles of purple ooze disguised as a wizard at the local carnival. Of course the Ranger's return just in time to stop Ooze and his ugly CG robot by throwing it into the path of an incoming Haley's Comet. Yeah, they spent all that time becoming "ninjas" and spewing faux-animism talk only to throw Ooze into Haley's Comet. They didn't even use the powers they wasted forty-five fuckin' minutes obtaining. That's like Voltron taking five minutes to form the Flaming Sword only to beat up their opponent with a baseball bat. That's like the Scooby-Doo gang setting up a complex trap to catch the old dude in a mask only for Fred to punch him out and take his mask off, instead.
What's the damn point?
Make no mistake about it, this movie is a complete cash-in. The Power Rangers were the hottest thing going at the time, and box-office receipts were almost guaranteed despite quality or review scores. I can
almost see why someone might like it. The action is decent, and with the right twinge of nostalgia brewing in the back of your mind it might almost be worth it. But make no mistake about it, this movie is a piece of shit.
I Should Feel Guilty, Why? Because, despite a palatable couple of action scenes
The Mighty Morphing Power Rangers Movie is about the most juvenile garbage you can watch. The plot makes no logical sense, the acting is
atrocious, and Ivan Ooze, who's a pretty cool character actually, is woefully underutilized after the first act. Nostalgia for the old series should be your only reason for wasting your time on this windowed abortion of a motion picture.
eStragand - October 1, 2007 03:20 AM (GMT)
"Flash Gordon" SO needs to be on this list.
Although I'm proud of my Flash love. But I'm a single nerd with an entire "comic book room" and a "man basement" of sports crap.
Tempest - October 2, 2007 07:13 AM (GMT)
Okay, I've been mulling long enough (that's what
she said). Lets jump back into this.

19.
BloodsportWhat Is It? Only the manliest damn movie to ever be manly. Jean Claude Van Damme flexes his acting skills- such as they are, by playing a world-class martial artist who enters the "Kumite"- an illegal underground fighting league, where serious injury or death aren't uncommon, but expected.
This is a movie for guys who like movies. There's not a broad to be found except good looking ones. There's not much talking, not a lot of plot, and enough ass-kicking to fill up several lesser movies. The acting- such as it is- is pretty atrocious. The plot; virtually non-existent. Every "actor", with the exception of the incredibly out-of-place Forest Whitaker seems to be hired for their ability to play fight and do kung-fu. And, really the "characters" they're playing are really no better. There's a bunch of unamed fighters, the quintessential Yokozuna type Sumo, the squirrly little black guy who fights like a monkey, and the Tank Abbott style slugger with a Harley Davidson shirt, leather jacket, mullet, and beer gut. All the bases are covered. Van-Damme is easily the least interesting of the bunch; he's stoic, cold, calculating, and chock full of goofy one-liners. The "Tank Abbot" dude is Van-Damme's buddy. And he does what Van-Damme's buddies always do; get beat up and give Van-Damme an excuse to be
really vicious in the final big fight.
And that's really all there is to it. Van-Damme, as Frank Dux fights people. Various other people fight other people. In the end Van-Damme comes up against the odds on favorite, a big ripped Chinese guy whose head is seemingly hard enough to break a man's hand, as evidenced in a scene where Van-Damme's buddy, a "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan lookalike suffers a severe head injury after trying to headbutt him.
As you could probably guess by the fact this movie's star is Jean Claude Van-Damme and not some no-name Chinese guy, Dux wins. He avenges his friend's injury and then shares a heart-warming scene in the hospital where he gives him a
manly hug and a very
manly kiss on the cheek (???)
To make things even better, this movie is supposedly based on a
true story. Yeah, I'm sure. IMDB's trivia section for this movie states that the real Frank Dux did do some fight choreography for the film. But that only proves
he's real- not all the shit that happened.
I Should Feel Guilty, Why? Because- and guys I think we can all admit this,
Bloodsport is the
epitomy of a guy movie. We can live vicariously through Van-Damme, living out our fantasies of kicking ass and taking names in equal measure. There's nothing wrong with that. But this movie's still a pretty big pile.
I mean, you want
proof?
Manly....
Manly-er.......
Manly-er-est.......
There's not a drop of estrogen to be found here....
This man eats fear for breakfast and danger for dessert......And just to help you keep your testosterone from exploding your brains.....
eStragand - October 2, 2007 06:42 PM (GMT)
Dammit...NSFW last picture!!!
(although a buncha' shirtless guys could also be seen as NSFW, depending on your gender or sexual orientation)
Wasn't the Hacksaw lookalike Donald Gibb, the same guy who played "Ogre" in the Nerds movies and "Dr. Death" in HBO's 1st & Ten?
Yes, I could check IMDB, but I'm always thrilled to slip in a Dr. Death/1st& Ten reference.
Tempest - October 2, 2007 07:30 PM (GMT)
I don't know what NSFW means.,.....
Real F'n Show - October 2, 2007 07:53 PM (GMT)
Nothin' So Far Wussy.
Or Not Safe For Work. Depending on if you actually have a job. At which you really shouldn't be reading this site anyway. Get back to work, eS!
Big F'N Swigg - October 3, 2007 07:00 PM (GMT)
Who is that? Looks like either Torrie Wilson or Tori Spelling...
Tempest - October 3, 2007 07:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Big F'N Swigg @ Oct 3 2007, 01:00 PM) |
| Who is that? Looks like either Torrie Wilson or Tori Spelling... |
Torrie Wilson.
Big F'N Swigg - October 3, 2007 07:13 PM (GMT)
ahh... stupid generic blondes
Tempest - October 4, 2007 05:55 AM (GMT)
My "one every couple days" thing is officially over. Starting tommorrow I'm going to make a hard push toward finishing this list.

18.
The Devil's RejectsWhat Is It? Shock-rocker legend Rob Zombie's follow-up to his abysmal
House Of 1,000 Corpses. Rejects ups the ante by being more violent, more disgusting, more crass, and a hell of a lot more fun -- in that, "I should take a shower" kind of way- than House could ever hope to be.
Starring Rob's hot wife Sheri Moon Zombie, as Baby, legendary cult-hero Sid Haig as Captain Spaulding, and Tobe Hooper alum Bill Mosely as Otis B. Driftwood "The Devil's Rejects" is a chase movie from its opening moments as the police bust into the "Firefly House" gunning down everyone they can get to. In the end only Baby and Otis escape. Their "mother" is taken away to prison. Their "brother" is gunned down. And their other "brother" is simply nowhere to be found.
From there
Rejects goes overboard with the insanity from the fifth minute of the film to the climactic end. As the "Devil's Rejects" run they meet up with a traveling band who they take hostage in a hotel room. The scene that follows, which includes forced oral sex by Otis, and the placement of a gun barrel in a very "uncomfortable" place exemplifies the term "guilty pleasure". This is easily the longest "non-chase" sequence in the film and it takes things in some uncomfortable directions. Of note is the fact that Priscilla Barnes spends the entire twenty-minutes of screen-time completely naked.
The story follows a simple path from there; the Rejects run as Sheriff Wydell (played by William Forsythe) follows them. Along the way
a lot of people die- including Wydell and The Rejects themselves. Wydell's death is perhaps the most shocking; his neck is simply snapped by the Reject's brother Tiny (Matthew McGrory) in a completely matter-of-fact way. He doesn't even get the chance to put up a fight. The Reject trio get the most "heroic" death in the picture, as they're gunned down to Lynrd Skynrd's "Freebird" when they make their last big suicide run at a police blockade.
In a way,
The Devil's Rejects is the best guilty pleasure movie in a long time. It takes the vibe of 70's horror and exploits it to its fullest extent. There's 70's horror cameos galore including Ken Foree (Of
Dawn Of The Dead fame), Micheal Berryman (Jupiter in Wes Craven's
The Hill's Have Eyes), PJ Soles (producer, writer and Michael Myer's hands in
Halloween) and Brian Posehn among
many others. There's the rocking 70's tunes that you'd
never admit to liking amongst your friends. Every little thing, from the dialogue, to the sets, to the acting make the whole thing feel as if it was plucked from some dingy shit hole movie theater in the middle of the 70's.
Along with a lot of superficial stuff,
Rejects stays true to its campy 70's roots and ups the ante with the violence. Some of it's so over the top you can't help but laugh, but at times it can almost get uncomfortable to watch. The aformentioned rape scene bothered Bill Mosely so much he almost refused to participate. There's a scene where Wydell brutally stabs Mother Firefly to death as she's handcuffed, and its framed almost as if he's stabbing into her baby maker. When Wydell finally catches the three Rejects he tortures them to the point of almost making them seem sympathetic.
Rejects is the kind of movie that doesn't shy away from the violence. Its presented full on, without a hint of remorse or guilt, and it
loves it.
Make no mistake about it,
The Devil's Rejects is a mean-spirited movie. Its main characters are three psychopaths with a criminal history longer than the U.S. Constitution. Our "hero", Wydell, is a deranged lunatic who's almost as bad as the crazies he's after. There isn't a single truly sympathetic character in the whole picture. The end, which results in every main character dieing is simply there to remind you of the blanket of nihlism this movie sleeps under. There's no-one worth rooting for, virtuous enough to envy or to keep alive. Frankly, we're better without these people.
I Should Feel Guilty, Why? Because this is easily the most offensive, mean-spirited, and degrading movie in the last several years. Its violent as sin and
loves it. And it takes that corny 70's horror vibe and revels in it. There are few movies out there offensive enough to almost drive viewers away, but that are in turn sickly fascinating enough to keep them watching.
The Devil's Rejects is just that kind of movie. Its got a car-crash quality, maybe its entertaining to some- but its damn sure not "good" by any traditional means. It makes me want to take a shower after its all over. This
is not a movie that wants to like you. You shouldn't like
it.
Tempest - October 11, 2007 05:25 AM (GMT)
Okay, I've got no reason to stop updating this list until its finished now. I just got back from the Bahamas yesterday, and boy are my arms tired. So now I've got some real time to dedicate to this bitch.

17.
HybridWhat It Is Just another in a long line of bad
Alien rip-offs and retreads.
Hybrid stars a no-name cast of assorted nobodies in a story so simple and manufactured I'm surprised it wasn't written by a damn computer.
A group of assorted military soldiers hook up with a drifter named McQueen on a post-apocalyptic Earth. They head inside an abandoned research facility, seeking refuge from an approaching ion storm. I don't know what an ion storm is, but they seem to get a lot of them in the future. Those poor suckers in
Soldier could time there watches by them for Christ sake.
Once "safely" inside the group sets up shop for the night, hoping to wait out the storm and repair their damaged vehicle. From here the movie moves into familiar territory- as the research base isn't quite abandoned. There's one big, ugly guy in a rubber suit left and he pursues our heroes in the most perfunctory fashion possible. He takes out the gruff mechanical engineer first, and then follows that up with an entree of generic red shirt, the so-called bad ass, and etc. until the pre-requisite final couple manage to destroy the creature with a well placed bomb. Its pure Ridley Scott wannabe stuff, nothing too terrible, just unremarkable.
The monster itself is a sight to see; he (it?) looks like a Godzilla costume if someone accidentally covered it in that green goop you can get from a gumball machine for a quarter. To be fair, you only get a couple quick full looks at the monster, but its enough to make you realize that anything aside from a couple quick looks would've been too much.
And to be completely honest the movie moves at a quick clip. It doesn't overstay its already tenuous welcome, and there's much worse out there.
And the lesbian shower scene helps move things along nicely.....
What, did I forget to mention
Hybrid's one true stand-out scene? The scene that justifies its entire existence. Well, for those of you not aware
Hybrid contains a fairly lengthy and fully nude (duh, right?) shower scene between its two female leads. About five minutes into the film everyone splits up and the two hot commando chickies wind up finding someone's private quarters, and then, in a scene straight out've a softcore Cinemax porno wash each other's "private quarters" for about five minutes. Its hot. Its why I developed carpal tunnel at the age of twelve and why my right hand currently looks like an arthritic monkey's paw. Its why my right arm can lift a car.
I can make snarky jokes about the acting, the bad special effects, or the predictable ending, but whats the point? After the first five minutes there's no reason to watch it anymore, anyway.
I Should Feel Guilty, Why? Oh, I think you know. The movie itself is a complete "whatever". You know the
real reason you're renting/buying/downloading it. You want some monkey spanking action on some boring, lonely night. That's okay. I won't tell.
whitemilesdavis - October 11, 2007 11:47 AM (GMT)
Man, this is great reading. Probably should go up on the site.
Big F'N Swigg - October 11, 2007 01:58 PM (GMT)
It should be a countdown thing on the site. Every __ days Tempest will put up a new one until we run out.
Then he starts his next list. OR ELSE!!!
Big F'N Swigg - October 12, 2007 06:31 PM (GMT)
Come on, E. Let's get this on Da' site!
eStragand - October 12, 2007 06:42 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Big F'N Swigg @ Oct 12 2007, 11:31 AM) |
| Come on, E. Let's get this on Da' site! |
Hey..hadn't thought of that. Good call.
I was thinking we'd wait until we get enough to post in five-movie segments?
SamoaRowe - October 12, 2007 08:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eStragand @ Oct 12 2007, 12:42 PM) |
| QUOTE (Big F'N Swigg @ Oct 12 2007, 11:31 AM) | | Come on, E. Let's get this on Da' site! |
Hey..hadn't thought of that. Good call.
I was thinking we'd wait until we get enough to post in five-movie segments?
|
Some of these could almost stand as legitimate movie reviews as their own, I think it would be a fun way to fill up the movie pages.
Tempest - October 12, 2007 08:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eStragand @ Oct 12 2007, 12:42 PM) |
| QUOTE (Big F'N Swigg @ Oct 12 2007, 11:31 AM) | | Come on, E. Let's get this on Da' site! |
Hey..hadn't thought of that. Good call.
I was thinking we'd wait until we get enough to post in five-movie segments?
|
I'm going out to dinner in a few minutes. I'll put up another entry later.
eStragand - October 12, 2007 09:21 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tempest @ Oct 12 2007, 01:15 PM) |
| I'm going out to dinner in a few minutes. I'll put up another entry later. |
Okay, be sure to clock out when you do, mister! We're not paying you to take excessive "lunch breaks". I want a fully proofed, ready-to-print column on my desk by 8am tomorrow morning!
SamoaRowe - October 12, 2007 09:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eStragand @ Oct 12 2007, 03:21 PM) |
| QUOTE (Tempest @ Oct 12 2007, 01:15 PM) | | I'm going out to dinner in a few minutes. I'll put up another entry later. |
Okay, be sure to clock out when you do, mister! We're not paying you to take excessive "lunch breaks". I want a fully proofed, ready-to-print column on my desk by 8am tomorrow morning!
|
Depending on my mood tomorrow, you might get a new review out of me too, but it would help if you gave me a raise, my rent is getting expensive.
eStragand - October 13, 2007 04:52 PM (GMT)
What?! I thought we paid you that big advance back in July?! Don't tell me that didn't make it, either. I'll have Miss Betty call accounting on Monday.
Tempest - October 14, 2007 07:41 AM (GMT)
I've got nothing witty to say. I'm just lazy. Oh, except I ate some Chinese the other night...... and dinner, oh boy, I've never seen a better Italian restaurant.
(Badum-crash......)

16.
Jason XWhat Is It? The precise nadir of the vaunted
Friday The 13th franchise.
Jason X sees Jason Voorhees follow the example of such horror "luminaries" as Pinhead and that little Leprechaun bastard -- taking his brand of slice 'n' dice murder into the confines of a space-station. Yes, its
Jason in space. Its better than "Jason on ice", but just barely.
The story, as you'd imagine, with setting up such an asinine premise, is incredibly stupid. Its the near future, and Jason is being held at the "Camp Crystal Lake Research Facility" (*cough*
a Science facility in Jersey? *cough*). Of course, the hot chick scientist, Rowan (not Atkinson -- though that would be awesome), wants to keep him there. Apparently, he's capable of rapidly regenerating skin cells or somesuch, which is a very scientific reason for explaining why he's lived through nine movies of him getting his ass kicked by some big-breasted chick. Of course, some evil government spook wants him (for reasons never really made clear). Predicatably, during the transport process Jason gets loose and kills about nine people in twelve seconds before chasing after Rowan. Its like every
Friday The 13th movie in history, only on fast-forward.
Eventually Rowan manages to cryogenically freeze both herself and old hockeypuss. Yes, its like
Futurama. No, it won't be as funny.
Flash forward a couple thousand years later and the Earth is a mess (damn ion storms, Earth must feel like the cast of
Hybrid.) As it turns out a group of students are on an archeological dig in the bowels of the old "Camp Crystal Lake Research Facility" -- its a small world, ain't it? There they find the frozen carcasses of both Jason and Rowan. They decide to take both bodies aboard their ugly CGI space-base, apparently not caring (or noticing) that Rowan has a massive wound in her abdomen and Jason is frozen in place
with a giant honkin' machete in his hand!!!I thought people in the future were supposed to be smarter......
Anyway, I'm spending way too much time on a plot that the writers probably spent a joint on. So, eventually Jason defrosts, not unlike a TV dinner, and goes crazy with the killing.
(Oh, and before I go on I should probably mention that I have no recollection of any character names. The acting, typical of this type of movie, is so bad very few characters are worth remembering by name. Anywho, back to your regularly scheduled program..... )
And here's the best part; its on a space-station, so he's got all kinds of new tools to play with. His first "real kill" comes when he freezes some chick's head with liquid nitrogen and smashes her face apart on a table. The rest of the kills are more of his normal modus operandi (to quote the late Gorilla Monsoon) -- stabbing, neck snapping, throat slicing, etc.
Eventually, after killing a bunch of nobody teens, a group of "crack commandos" are sent to deal with him. They have about as much luck as any average stoned, drunk, or stupid teenager -- which is to say not much.
One scene in particular emphasizes why this movie is a walking, talking joke; a marine tries to go
hand to hand with Jason and gets knocked over a railing and impaled on a giant drill. When someone asks how that guy's doing another marine "comically" replies, "he's screwed".......
Eventually after what seems like hours of pointlessly boring stalking and killing, the surviving few teens realize they've got a
cyborg with them.
That's something I neglected to mention earlier. In the future blow-up dolls are apparently obsolete, as evidenced by the fact one of the teens has a hot cyborg girlfriend. He's tapping some metal ass. She even has detachable nipples. Lets move on....
So she, along with her guns and her firearms fucks up Jason's world. After blowing his legs off, and blowing his head off with a missile the survivors think they can celebrate. And fans of bad movies do too......
If you know what's coming up don't worry, you've seen
it. But for those of you not initiated with this I present to you "Uber Jason".

Not content to simply rip off
Alien, director Sean S. Cunningham goes as far as to ape
The Terminator as well. And he looks
cheap. His right arm appears to be wrapped in tin-foil, and his mask appears to be silver-painted styrafome.
The way the contrive to bring him back is actually
worse, though. Apparently Jason's spirit caused an electrical surge which in turn activated a life-support and repair system. Don't ask me why it made him a tin-foil robot though.....
The movie hits its set trajectory from here. The few surviving teens run and "Uber Jason" gives chase.
The one decent scene in the entire movie happens within the last fifteen minutes. As "Uber Jason" continues his unrelenting(ly boring) pursuit somebody decides to punch up a hologram to distract him.
Not to spoil it, but this scene reduces the entire
Friday The 13th franchise to a simple, four second, throw-away gag, soundbyte.
Jason sees through the hologram, by literally
seeing through it. Eventually the teens escape as Jason and the marine seargant tumble towards what I can only assume is our "new Earth", having a fist-fight in space.
Really, I've got nothing more to add here.....
"We love pre-marital sex..."I Should Feel Guilty, Why? I might have railed on this movie a bit -- okay, a lot. But its still fun inspite of itself. Its loud, quick-paced, and bloody. There's titties and gore. Its everything you could look for in a
Friday The 13th movie. Its good dumb fun. You can like it -- just don't be proud to admit it.
eStragand - October 14, 2007 10:05 PM (GMT)
I'll add this to the site sometime this week. I'll do it in five movie installments and give it the spotlight feature and everything. I'd add it sooner, but I want to give the new reviews from PSR, Rowe and myself some time to generate heat.
Also have to copy the images over to our site. Easy stuff, but I just get so sick of doing it after 12 years.
Tempest - October 15, 2007 01:02 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eStragand @ Oct 14 2007, 04:05 PM) |
I'll add this to the site sometime this week. I'll do it in five movie installments and give it the spotlight feature and everything. I'd add it sooner, but I want to give the new reviews from PSR, Rowe and myself some time to generate heat.
Also have to copy the images over to our site. Easy stuff, but I just get so sick of doing it after 12 years. |
Sounds good, ES. If there's anything I can do to help you with the pics just let me know, okay?
For the most part the rest of what I have planned won't be as picture heavy. I had to show Jason X's epic badosity through pictures -- or else people wouldn't believe it to be real.
eStragand - October 17, 2007 04:24 PM (GMT)
It's Feature Time, this week on DWS:
http://www.dawrestlingsite.com/cinema/hate_to_love.phpAnd check out the main page, too. I think the picture works VERY well.
Tempest - October 17, 2007 07:54 PM (GMT)
SamoaRowe - October 17, 2007 08:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tempest @ Oct 17 2007, 01:54 PM) |
| Lookin' good, ES.
|
Yes, it really does.
On a picky side note, the first ever episode of Raw didn't air in 1983, ES. ;)
eStragand - October 17, 2007 08:36 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Oct 17 2007, 01:08 PM) |
| On a picky side note, the first ever episode of Raw didn't air in 1983, ES. ;) |
Oh....see, I knew that. I intentionally left that error in there to see if YOU guys would pick it up. Yeah, I was just testing you. Good job....good job...
Tempest - October 29, 2007 03:06 AM (GMT)
Well, I've been gone for a good bit. I don't have any good reason why. Its just -- my vampirism's been acting up a bit. I figured I'd jet over to Tibet to see if I could find a cure for it.
Turns out it was just bad gas.......

15.
Transformers: The Movie What Is It? The true culmination of America's obsession with watching giant robots that turn into cars fighting other robots that turn into jets. The gloriously cheesy, original (non -- Michael Bay directed),
Transformers movie. This movie is pure unadulterated 80's cheese, from the soundtrack -- provided by obscure eighties cock -- rockers Lion, as well as kind of hard rockers Kick Axe to the frothing at the mouth villains and heroic to a fault good guys.
Starring all the original voice talent from the regular cartoon, including Peter Cullen (Optimus Prime), Chris Latta (as Starscream), and Frank Welker (as Megatron) --
Transformers: The Movie picks up right where the cartoon left off, with Megatron (who else?), plotting how to get the Autobot's "Matrix Of Power".
Now in the cartoon, Megatron and his merry band of sociopaths and idiots tried so, so many ridiculous plots to get the damn thing its amazing they didn't just give up after about the fiftieth time the Autobots managed to beat them without landing a shot. So, much to my (and I'm sure everyone else's surprise), Megatron just kinda says "fuck it" and stages an all-out attack on Autobot city. Its clear to see here that the people behind this movie wanted to make this a really stand-out scene; nearly
all the Autobots and Decepticons are here -- everyone from the Dinobots, to the Insecticons, to the Constructicons are here kicking ass and taking names. Its really a sight to see. Remember, this is before the age of CG integration into animated movies, meaning that everything here was actually animated
by hand.
And in one of the ballsiest moves I've ever seen in a PG rated kids movie, good guys are actually
killed on-screen. Now on the normal cartoon your average character would have to do nothing short of strapping some kind of nuclear device to their head in order to achieve death. Here we have Megatron non-chalantly blasting the shit out of eight or nine guys at a time.
The Transformers Movie is perhaps best remembered (often for the worst) as the vehicle used to remove Optimus Prime from the Autobot leadership position. In death (at the hands of Megatron), and in a surprisingly touching moment Prime turns over the Matrix Of Leadership to none-other than Hot-Rod.
Hot-Rod!!!?Yeah, Hot-Rod. You don't make fun of a guy on his birthday, and you don't argue with a dieing man. But for shit's sake Hot-Rod?!!
At the same time, and in a complete reversal of the Autobots death-bed annointing Starscream usurps the position of Decepticon leader by throwing an injured Megatron out of the cargo-bay door of their ship.
This is where the plot really gets interesting, as Megatron is revived by the planetoid-robot monster Unicron. Despite facing a behemoth Megatron still feels superior -- and says so, only to get punked right the fuck out. Unicron threatens to kill Megatron (lots of 'trons here) unless Megatron agrees to help Unicron destroy the Autobot's Matrix Of Power. So, re-energized with a new look, a new name (Galvatron) and a new voice actor (Spock himself, the living legend, Leonard Nemoy) its no mystery as to what happens next -- Galvatron takes what few troops he has left and stages an all out assault on the remaining Autobots.
The plot follows a relatively simple trajectory from there. There's a few small skirmishes -- as the remaining Autobot survivors flee from the Decepticon army and Unicron devours one of Cybertron's moons, Galactus style.
There's even a song and dance number.....
Eventually, in yet
another awesome battle scene the remaining Autbots and Decepticons battle each other as well as Unicron -- this is the same incredible animation as before, only this time there's also a giant robot the twice the size of a planet involved. In the final climactic scene Galvatron and Hot-Rod, who uses the Matrix Of Power to become the less hyphenated Rodimus Prime (so many dick jokes....) finish their fight
inside the skull of the fully transformed Unicron. Eventually, Galvatron is destroyed as is Unicron (literally from the inside out) and peace is restored to Cybertron.
...... at least until the third season.
I Should Feel Guilty, Why? In many ways the quality of this film is utterly remarkable. Its not
Citizen Kane, but compared to most of its contemporaries (
G.I. Joe: The Movie, Dolph Lundgren in
He-Man -- I'm looking at you), its a classic.
Make no mistake about it though, this film is a total "toy-jam". In geek parlance a "toy-jam" is a point in an on going series where the people behind it feel the need to move out their older stock of toys, feeling that they've essentially made their maximum profits off of them -- and begin to reinvigorate a line with a large wave of new toys.
Basically,
Transformers: The Movie is a ninety minute toy commerical.
(But damn was it good commerical..........)
And I think I've heard enough Lion and Kick Axe (ugh..), to last me the rest of my life.
Tempest - October 29, 2007 05:37 AM (GMT)
And we're back. Number two tonight, and its gonna be a doozy.

14.
DOA: Dead Or AliveWhat Is It? Potentially the
worst and yet somehow
best movie adapted from a video game
ever.
DOA is vapid, stupid, trashy entertainment. And that's what makes it
great.
The plot of
DOA, if you want to call it that, revolves around some kind of evil super villian dude setting up a tournament on an island in order to steal the power and abilites of the "world's greatest martial artists". Somehow this involves a competition featuring only hot chicks and really athletic and good looking men (oh, and Kevin Nash). Its like the cast of a Calvin Klein ad somehow wound up on the island from the
Mortal Kombat movie.
Its really all quite dumb, and really best ignored.
Our main girls (the five featured in the poster above) are this crazy dude's main targets. So he sets them up in fights against tough competition to find out which one's really the best. One other thing of note, the Asian chick, Kasumi is on the lamb from her native country of Japan, so she has a hot assassin after her. I don't really know why....
Also the blond chick who isn't Jaime Pressly is also in cahoots with someone to rob the island's owner of a fortune in gold and jewels.
With that established (and really, the robbery sub-plot is forgotten about five minutes after its brought up.)
About the plot, all that's left to be said is in the end, when its all said and done the main bad guy winds up getting blown up in an explosion he started after having his ass beat by our five main girls. A fitting end..... whatever..
But really, I know what we're all here for; to see hot chicks fight each other in skin-tight catsuits and teeny-weeny-itsy-bitsy bikinis. And this flick doesn't disappoint.
All other deficiencies aside, the action scenes and one-on-one battles are the best thing this movie has going for it. And it knows it. We get quick hard-hitting one-on-one affairs. We get some longer one-on-one fights. The true highlight would have to Kasumi (the Asian broad) fighting a big dude named Bayman. These two smash through walls as they're kicking each other's ass, and in a clever moment smash through a wall right into an inground pool where two other fighters are trying to share a "moment". Its nothing we haven't all seen before, but its still done well enough to entertain.
There's also a very impressive "one chick versus about a hundred dudes" fight that takes place on a very tall flight of stairs as she's surrounded on either side. Again, nothing new to the genre -- but its executed well enough that its still entertaining to watch.
The fight choreography in every fight just feels
right for this type of flick. There's never any real attempt at realism. One chick the size of a seventeen year old high school Senior can take on two-hundred armed assailants? Probably not. But it doesn't matter here. These women are our heroes. They're here to kick ass and chew bubblegum. And not one of them actually brought any bubblegum.
When it comes right down to it, this is a movie for dudes that want to see hot chicks kick ass. There's not a lot of plot to think about, there's enough PG-13 nuditiy to give a twelve-year old arthritis (Jaime Pressly is introduced in a bikini that appears to be meant for a twelve-year old girl and one of the other girls performs an action scene in nothing but a towel after taking a shower). There's even a few hints of lesbianism thrown in for good measure.
Hell, there's even a scene with the girls playing volleyball and bouncing in slow mo --
(Hold on........)
- tion. In all its trashy, good, fun.
(You might here a toilet flushing, but I
was not doing what you might think....)
I Should Feel Guilty, Why? Because, by all rights and claims
DOA: Dead Or Alive is a piece of shit. Its
Baywatch with more karate. You know why you're watching it. Just don't let anyone catch you.
Big F'N Swigg - October 29, 2007 06:38 PM (GMT)
So you know, Tempest, Robert Stack was Ultra Magnus. Leonard Nimoy (yes, Spock himself) was Galvatron.
And Megatron was out to rule the Universe, not get the Matrix of Leadership
Tempest - October 29, 2007 08:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Big F'N Swigg @ Oct 29 2007, 12:38 PM) |
So you know, Tempest, Robert Stack was Ultra Magnus. Leonard Nimoy (yes, Spock himself) was Galvatron.
And Megatron was out to rule the Universe, not get the Matrix of Leadership |
Damn IMDB........
EDIT: I fixed it. But now my Unsolved Mysteries reference doesn't fit.
eStragand - October 30, 2007 12:01 AM (GMT)
The problem I had with Transformers the Movie was how everybody suddenly died. It wasn't anything special, just another day of Autobots vs. Decepticons, but suddenly everyone's croaking. After seeing these dweebs blast each other around for years, we're suddenly supposed to be moved when they start dying from a simple laser blast? Didn't work for me. Megatron's been shooting at Autobots for years..but suddenly, one day, all of his shoots are instantly fatal. Huh?
But "yay" for using "toy-jam"! Does anybody else use that besides me?
Tempest - October 30, 2007 12:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eStragand @ Oct 29 2007, 06:01 PM) |
The problem I had with Transformers the Movie was how everybody suddenly died. It wasn't anything special, just another day of Autobots vs. Decepticons, but suddenly everyone's croaking. After seeing these dweebs blast each other around for years, we're suddenly supposed to be moved when they start dying from a simple laser blast? Didn't work for me. Megatron's been shooting at Autobots for years..but suddenly, one day, all of his shoots are instantly fatal. Huh?
But "yay" for using "toy-jam"! Does anybody else use that besides me? |
I stole "Toy-Jam" from your G.I. Joe comic review index, ES.
Big F'N Swigg - October 30, 2007 01:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eStragand @ Oct 29 2007, 08:01 PM) |
The problem I had with Transformers the Movie was how everybody suddenly died. It wasn't anything special, just another day of Autobots vs. Decepticons, but suddenly everyone's croaking. After seeing these dweebs blast each other around for years, we're suddenly supposed to be moved when they start dying from a simple laser blast? Didn't work for me. Megatron's been shooting at Autobots for years..but suddenly, one day, all of his shoots are instantly fatal. Huh? |
That's one of the main gripes for the movie. The other is that there is practically no one from the second season of the show is in the film, despite the fact that it had already aired. But that's because they made the movie during/after the first season, and only had those characters to base the film on.
And man, did I cry watching that movie as a kid. Every time Ironhide got blasted, a tear started, and they flowed like a river of sorrow when Optimus Prime bought it.
eStragand - October 30, 2007 04:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tempest @ Oct 29 2007, 05:21 PM) |
| I stole "Toy-Jam" from your G.I. Joe comic review index, ES. |
Kinda' thought/hoped so. Now that I know someone's still reading that thread, I feel extra special! I've been thinking people have been seeing that thread refreshed on top of the "Comic Books" folder , then saying to themselves: "fuck, he's STILL doing that?! Give it a break"
I'm completely doing that index for my own indulgence, so if someone gets a kick out of it, cool.
Tempest - October 30, 2007 05:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eStragand @ Oct 30 2007, 10:25 AM) |
| QUOTE (Tempest @ Oct 29 2007, 05:21 PM) | | I stole "Toy-Jam" from your G.I. Joe comic review index, ES. |
Kinda' thought/hoped so. Now that I know someone's still reading that thread, I feel extra special! I've been thinking people have been seeing that thread refreshed on top of the "Comic Books" folder , then saying to themselves: "fuck, he's STILL doing that?! Give it a break"
I'm completely doing that index for my own indulgence, so if someone gets a kick out of it, cool.
|
Yeah, its good. I've actually been reading pretty regularly. Sometimes I skip two or three and go back and read them all together.
Tempest - November 1, 2007 05:23 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eStragand @ Oct 29 2007, 06:01 PM) |
The problem I had with Transformers the Movie was how everybody suddenly died. It wasn't anything special, just another day of Autobots vs. Decepticons, but suddenly everyone's croaking. After seeing these dweebs blast each other around for years, we're suddenly supposed to be moved when they start dying from a simple laser blast? Didn't work for me. Megatron's been shooting at Autobots for years..but suddenly, one day, all of his shoots are instantly fatal. Huh?
But "yay" for using "toy-jam"! Does anybody else use that besides me? |
Actually ES, that's probably the best part of the movie for me. After two seasons of having action without any deaths (except for that one dude), its nice to see some people finally buy the damn farm.
It makes the movie feel like something special. Without something shocking it would essentially be a ninety minute episode of the cartoon.
eStragand - November 1, 2007 06:51 PM (GMT)
I'd argue that's it's just "Death for the Sake of Death". Similar to a shitty scene in DC's "Infinte Crisis" where suddenly Superboy Prime starts killing some old Teen Titans in unceremonious fashion.
In both cases, it's fan-fiction, where the concept of death is tossed around like a basketball. Sometimes death comes out of left field and you don't expect it. That'd be an acceptable way to kill 1 or 2 characters, but for it to happen to a whole group, the same way on the same day is bad storytelling. Death is a pretty big concept in ANY story and for it to be shoe-horned in so adolescent kids can cream their pants with cries of "yesss!! someone died finally!" is weak.
There's a similar scene in the GI Joe comics, as well. Around issue 110 or so (circa 1991), the Joes go off to fight a pastiche of the Gulf War (Desert Storm). A buncha' guys suddenly buy it in a fairly off-handed manner. It's weird, because a brand new character is introduced and killed two issues later. But the death of the new guy is handled well and much more significant than the collective deaths of guys who had been around for almost 10 years. When it was over, you wondered why they even bothered to kill them. Just so they could claim "look, someone DIED". Again, weak.
Tempest - November 1, 2007 09:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eStragand @ Nov 1 2007, 12:51 PM) |
I'd argue that's it's just "Death for the Sake of Death". Similar to a shitty scene in DC's "Infinte Crisis" where suddenly Superboy Prime starts killing some old Teen Titans in unceremonious fashion.
In both cases, it's fan-fiction, where the concept of death is tossed around like a basketball. Sometimes death comes out of left field and you don't expect it. That'd be an acceptable way to kill 1 or 2 characters, but for it to happen to a whole group, the same way on the same day is bad storytelling. Death is a pretty big concept in ANY story and for it to be shoe-horned in so adolescent kids can cream their pants with cries of "yesss!! someone died finally!" is weak.
There's a similar scene in the GI Joe comics, as well. Around issue 110 or so (circa 1991), the Joes go off to fight a pastiche of the Gulf War (Desert Storm). A buncha' guys suddenly buy it in a fairly off-handed manner. It's weird, because a brand new character is introduced and killed two issues later. But the death of the new guy is handled well and much more significant than the collective deaths of guys who had been around for almost 10 years. When it was over, you wondered why they even bothered to kill them. Just so they could claim "look, someone DIED". Again, weak. |
I can't speak to the legitimacy of the deaths in either example you've made reference to, but I can say that the introduction of Unicron in Transformers who, mind you -- eats an entire planet and kills/destroys every robot/being on it -- set a new parameter for an acceptable level of death.
After that nothing was sacred.
And besides, with the creative minds behind Transformers wanting to move Optimus out and bring in a new Autobot as a leader, it wouldn't have felt as legitimate to me if he was the only Autobot to buy the farm.
Megatron had the drop on them, and he was better. That's why he won.
And remember, in regard to a statement you made earlier, Megatron wasn't the only one who was killing his enemy. The only reason the Decepticons retreated from Autobot City was because many of them were injured (damaged?) or destroyed in the battle.
eStragand - November 1, 2007 09:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tempest @ Nov 1 2007, 02:15 PM) |
| I can't speak to the legitimacy of the deaths in either example you've made reference to, but I can say that the introduction of Unicron in Transformers who, mind you -- eats an entire planet and kills/destroys every robot/being on it -- set a new parameter for an acceptable level of death. |
See, I'd be okay if all the old characters had been eaten by Unicron (the Transformers' version of Galactus). That would've made seem Unicron seem really cruel n' evil , then get the audience to despise him. It'd also give Unicron a big "push". "Whoa...he just ate Prowl and Hound!! That fucker!!"
Instead, it's just a random battle where a buncha' guys die. From what I remember, it was a battle that had nothing to do with the impending threat of Unicron.