Title: Steroid ring nails WWE guys
Big F'N Swigg - March 19, 2007 10:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (PWInsider.com) |
While continuing their investigation into the alleged steroid distribution network in Florida that has implicated numerous pro athletes, the magazine's website posted a story today where they reported that they have documents that show a number of WWE wrestlers' names have been linked to the investigation.
In addition to Kurt Angle, who the magazine already named, they are now reporting the following:
"According to the official documents we reviewed, (Arizona Dr. David) Wilbirt was billed for HCG and the steroid stanozolol that were sent to WWE star Eddie Guerrero in early 2005. (Guerrero died on Nov. 13, 2005, in a Minneapolis hotel room due to what a coroner later ruled as heart disease, complicated by an enlarged heart resulting from a history of anabolic steroid use.) Wilbirt also allegedly issued prescriptions for the steroids nandrolone and stanozolol to Oscar Gutierrez, whose stage name is Rey Mysterio. (Through the WWE, Gutierrez declined comment.)"
They also reported the following:
"In total, there were 11 professional wrestlers listed in the documents that we saw. Some of these wrestlers are working as independents; some are out of the business entirely; others are first-tier stars. Consider Randy Orton, who allegedly received eight prescriptions for six different drugs -- stanozolol, nandrolone, anastrozole, Clomiphene citrate, oxandrolone and testosterone -- between March 2004 and August 2004. (Through the WWE, Orton declined comment.) Interestingly, according to the documents, Orton's prescriptions came from the same two doctors whose names appeared on the prescriptions in major league outfielder Gary Matthews Jr.'s file."
They later wrote:
"According to the documents two prominent wrestlers, Adam Copeland, a.k.a. Edge, and Shane Helms, a.k.a. The Hurricane, received HGH. (Through the WWE, Copeland and Helms didn't respond to a request for comment.) But virtually all the others allegedly received a wide variety of anabolic steroids. In each case these were supplied by Applied, the Mobile, Ala., compounding pharmacy that was raided last fall."
When SI.com asked their reporters if WWE has a drug policy, the reporters, Luis Fernando Llosa and L. Jon Wertheim said, "Llosa/Wertheim: Gary Davis, a WWE spokesman, pointed us to a Talent Wellness Program instituted in February 2006. As to whether anabolic steroids and HGH are banned, Davis sent us an email quoting the policy: 'The WWE policy prohibits the use of performance-enhancing drugs, as well as other prescription drugs which can be abused, if taken for other than a legitimate medical purpose pursuant to a valid prescription from a licensed and treating physician. For purposes of WWE's policy, prescriptions obtained over the Internet and/or from suppliers of prescription drugs from the Internet are not considered to have been given for a legitimate medical purpose.' Citing privacy issues, Davis declined to say whether WWE wrestlers have tested positive for banned substances since the policy was implemented."
To say that this is not good for WWE would be a monumental understatement.
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TehDoct0r - March 19, 2007 10:48 PM (GMT)
Uh-oh....... Eddy being mentioned makes me sad, even if I'm not all too surprised. Benoit's name isn't in there.
SamoaRowe - March 19, 2007 11:17 PM (GMT)
Yeah, the Eddie reference sort of felt like a punch to the gut, though not a surprise by any means. I'm not too shocked about any of the names that came up, except for Helms.
TehDoct0r - March 20, 2007 12:13 AM (GMT)
I love Eddy and really hate to think of him using steroids that late in his life (what with Chavo insisting that he was "clean" for four years and such, although I'm sure that was referring to the pills and alcohol), but from 03-05 his arms were just ridiculous. That vein was freaky, too. You know what vein I'm talking about.
Rey and Orton don't surpise me too much, but Helms and Edge? I really, really don't see it on Edge. But he is pretty regularly injured, so maybe he used them in that context.
SamoaRowe - March 20, 2007 12:56 AM (GMT)
Edge has at least cut down on whatever he's using. Take a look at him around his come back in April 2004 and compare him to now.
And yes, I know that vein you mentioned. It used to creep me out.
TehDoct0r - March 20, 2007 04:27 PM (GMT)
After looking at 04 Edge, I retract my previous statement. Damn.
dynamite kido - March 20, 2007 04:52 PM (GMT)
I noticed that this was reported this morning on Cold Pizza on ESPN. If the mainstream media gets ahold of this, it could be really bad news for the WWE.
I could even see them pulling guys from the rosters if this shit gets out of hand.
Scrooge McSuck - March 20, 2007 05:45 PM (GMT)
Oh, who gives a shit. It's a fixed sport that no one watches to begin with, and WWE won't lose a fanbase they already have. This isn't Barry Bonds breaking a REAL record with questionable means.
eStragand - March 20, 2007 05:47 PM (GMT)
Steroid busts wouldn't hurt WWE that much. The general consensus among the public is "it's fake anyways..so why should we care if they cheat by using steroids". Their "image" wouldn't be affected much, if at all.
dynamite kido - March 20, 2007 07:20 PM (GMT)
There's one thing that everyone is forgetting.
You know who DOES care? Advertisers. There you go.
Scrooge McSuck - March 20, 2007 07:23 PM (GMT)
WWE only has like 5 of them anyway. Skittles, Burger King, the enxt suck-ass PG-13 movie, and a new video game. WWE has had Burger King since before the REAL steroid scandal, as well as plenty of others.
dynamite kido - March 20, 2007 07:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Mar 20 2007, 01:23 PM) |
| WWE only has like 5 of them anyway. Skittles, Burger King, the enxt suck-ass PG-13 movie, and a new video game. WWE has had Burger King since before the REAL steroid scandal, as well as plenty of others. |
So you see the reason why they shouldn't want to piss any of them off?
SamoaRowe - March 20, 2007 07:27 PM (GMT)
Would Skittles dare give up the enthusiastic pimping they've recieved from J.R.?
Scrooge McSuck - March 20, 2007 07:30 PM (GMT)
Please remind us of JR's shill...
I'm sure WWE doesn't want to lose advertisers for shows, but they've had worse periods and still managed to scrape some together. Maybe not ones with as much money, but they won't be pressed for it.
And I repeat, no one will care enough compared to reactions in baseball and recently the NFL.
dynamite kido - March 20, 2007 08:14 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Mar 20 2007, 01:30 PM) |
I'm sure WWE doesn't want to lose advertisers for shows, but they've had worse periods and still managed to scrape some together. Maybe not ones with as much money, but they won't be pressed for it.
And I repeat, no one will care enough compared to reactions in baseball and recently the NFL. |
I know they've had worse periods but that's actually not the point here. It really depends on someone being up the WWE's ass as far as the media is concerned. Like that Mushnik asshole that hated the WWE and Vince years ago. I don't know where he is now, but someone like him could certainly do some damage to their already shitty reputation.
Plus, the advertisers deal is something that can really screw them TV wise. Like when they are up for a new contract or something.
Scrooge McSuck - March 20, 2007 08:19 PM (GMT)
Thank goodness they signed that deal with NBC/USA/Whatever in 2005, so that buys them at least 2 years from this point to have it blow over.
eStragand - March 20, 2007 08:27 PM (GMT)
As long as people tune in, they'll have advertisers. If Skittles bails, some other company will be next in line to advertise. Sure, it won't be IBM or Chevy, but there are some dweebs out there who'll want a slot.
dynamite kido - March 20, 2007 08:47 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eStragand @ Mar 20 2007, 02:27 PM) |
| As long as people tune in, they'll have advertisers. If Skittles bails, some other company will be next in line to advertise. Sure, it won't be IBM or Chevy, but there are some dweebs out there who'll want a slot. |
That's exactly the point.
I remember reading a few years back in the observer when the WWE was looking to leave Spike and go back to USA. They mentioned that it actually hurts the WWE to have the advertisers that they do. There are A level, B level, etc as far as the advertising "ranks" are so to speak. When you have a shitty level (which the point of the article was to point out that the WWE did indeed have) networks don't want you on their channels, or at least don't want to pay you well to do so.
Big F'N Swigg - March 20, 2007 09:00 PM (GMT)
There was an article on Yahoo earlier today. It mentioned every one by their actual name, though.