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Title: Let's Go Back About 100 Years


Mad Dog - January 14, 2005 09:06 PM (GMT)
I don't know how much you guys know about the really really old days but one of the more interesting days from the early days of wrestling was Frank Gotch/George Hackenschmidt. I think what I find most interesting is there's a lot of mystery surrounding the whole thing as you had two different stories coming from the opposing camps.

Hackenschmidt's side is that Gotch sent a guy (Ad Santel) into Hackenschmidt's training sessions and paid him to injure Hackenschmidt's knee before their big match. The during the match he accused Gotch of oiling up his skin for the match. Gotch ultimately won the match. Hackenschidmt had this to say in a newspaper article in the 40s:

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"Gotch was a lucky man, but it was not he alone that made me quit; it was he, cocoanut oil mixed with kerosene, plus the referee who gave him the verdict. Gotch's tactics: gouging eyes, tearing ears, using foul language, etc., did not affect me at all. My most difficult adversary, until the end of the match, was the soil. I could not overcome it. I wasted my strength gripping Gotch's wrists and arms ... He slipped out of every grip.

"Before five minutes passed, my trunks became as greasy as Gotch's skin, from rubbing and cleaning my hands of oil. I then appealed to the referee, and suggested we should have a hot bath before continuing. His answer was, 'Don't squeal.' This is the bitterest memory that I hold of the Chicago affair and of all the thousands of wrestling bouts that I contested in clubs, circuses, theatres and stadium. Nothing my hardest and toughest opponents, including Gotch, every did to me hurt me as much as the words, 'Don't squeal,' from Ed Smith, the referee in question.

"I should have walked out of the ring at that moment and insisted on a bath. I know I would have beaten him quickly if I could only have managed to hold him. I was much the stronger, and I had wrestled and beaten much stronger men before. But the combination of Gotch, oil and Smith was too much for me.

"I had been in generally bad condition for months before the match, with water in my knee joint. Yet I would have beaten Gotch were it not for his greasy skin. After one hour and fifty minutes of wrestling, I saw the opening for which I had been searching and went quickly to the floor, to roll him from that position. No one ever escaped from that hold, but I could not get the hold on him. He was as slippery as an eel. Seeing the uselessness of all further efforts caused me to give him the match."


If you go to http://www.frankgotch.com you can see the Gotch side of things. Though the guy writing it seems to be a complete and utter mark for him. Basically what the other side is it was all fair and Santel was only there to scout Hackenschmidt and didn't actually injure him.

I guess this would be the first feud in wrestling history and I've always found it to be an interesting story.

dynamite kido - January 14, 2005 10:09 PM (GMT)
A major reason why it's hard to find CREDIBLE info on this feud is because they worked EVERYONE back then. Absolutely EVERYONE. So anything you read could be fabricated or not the original story.....

VERY interesting though....

Mad Dog - January 14, 2005 11:40 PM (GMT)
That's the other big thing about this is I don't even know if it was a work or a shoot. It's in that grey area where it was still a mix of both.

Real F'n Show - January 15, 2005 12:27 AM (GMT)
I saw something about this on a wrestling show on the history channel. Thanks for the read. Too bad these matches don't exist on tape...

Mad Dog - January 15, 2005 03:46 PM (GMT)
I remember that special but I think they blew through their matches pretty quickly. Their two matches were in 1908 and 1911 just in case anyone was wondering.




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