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So this talk of RoH getting their own Triple Crown Title of sorts is laughable to me. If they go that route I will openly laugh in the face of every RoH fan I ever run into. Just a stupid idea and just further backs up the claim that they wish they were 90s All Japan.

Do something freaking original like the pure wrestling division was when it started. Why not use the Beat The Champ concept or something like that. At least get a mid-card belt so everyone has something to shoot for.

Maybe Gabe needs to have an outside source look the product over and give him ideas to fix the staleness.

I was loving what Nigel was doing with the Pure Title, and was pissed when they nixed it. For whatever reason they're going away from having more than one single's title I guess. I guess Gabe thinks it makes Danielson look more important or something. They'll really need one eventually, as there's way too many guys on their roster not to have one. I'd say bring back the North American Title or something and give it to a guy like Davey Richards.

From what I've heard they're going with the "less titles makes the ones we have more prestigious" route. It's a bit annoying, as once you hit the size ROH has, you definitely need the midcard title.

TNA's needed one for years

See, I'm not so sure about TNA. ROH needs one without a doubt, running 2-3 hour shows every time they run, but Impact is stretched enough as it is. A midcard title would just bog everything down that much more. TNA really needed one in the Weekly PPV era, when they had meaningless midcard feuds, but right now they don't have enough time to really get anything rolling, IMO.

I haven't seen an ROH show since the Trios Tourney this past year. They totally lost me with the CZW thing.

I'll agree with that.

And I think the CZW thing really hurt ROH for a lot of people. I know I didn't go to their last show in Dayton because of it. I missed a barbed wire match because I didn't want to deal with the shitty crowd

I think considering the stupidity that presents itself week in and out on monday nights on the USA network, the complaints about ROH are really minor and not worth giving up on the company. I'm going to the 11/3 show and couldn't be more excited.

QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Aug 20 2006, 07:56 PM)

I think considering the stupidity that presents itself week in and out on monday nights on the USA network, the complaints about ROH are really minor and not worth giving up on the company. I'm going to the 11/3 show and couldn't be more excited.

Compared to WWE, ROH doesn't have that many problems.

It was less a giving up on them and more of a "Oh, I'd rather buy CD's than ROH DVD's" thing. But that's just me. My tastes have been shifting more to music in the last year, two years anyway. TNA and ECW are really the only things keeping me watching wrestling anymore.

Did anything ever come of Rod Strong scoring the huge win over Matt Hardy? I was sure that that would be the thing to push him over the top. Almost beating Punker for the title, then beating a WWE Superstar? Thought that was it for sure.

QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Aug 20 2006, 07:56 PM)

I think considering the stupidity that presents itself week in and out on monday nights on the USA network, the complaints about ROH are really minor and not worth giving up on the company. I'm going to the 11/3 show and couldn't be more excited.

I couldn't agree more.

I also think that it's insane that people allow crowds to stop them from going to a show.

QUOTE (dynamite kido @ Aug 21 2006, 07:50 AM)

QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Aug 20 2006, 07:56 PM)

I think considering the stupidity that presents itself week in and out on monday nights on the USA network, the complaints about ROH are really minor and not worth giving up on the company. I'm going to the 11/3 show and couldn't be more excited.

I couldn't agree more.

I also think that it's insane that people allow crowds to stop them from going to a show.

It's not that the crowd stops me from going to the show, it's that they stop me from enjoying it as much.

I mean, I can't handle hearing some kid IN THE VERY BACK ROW yell "Prince Justice" at Abyss 87 times (The Very back row thing annoys me because I would work several hours for a ticket. That's at least a half a day of work so I can sit close, while this kid probably bummed the money off his parents.) That's just ridiculous. After a while it starts to eat at me. I can't focus on watching the match. I get irritated any time the kid yells anything. It totally ruins the show for me. Honestly, I prefer Japanese crowds. I used to enjoy the ECW type crowds, but people these days aren't cheering or chanting because they're passionate about the product. They're cheering because it's "cool" to be loud and immature.

Maybe I'm just becoming an old fart. I don't know. I don't even enjoy mosh pits anymore.

And just to add, going to the show would now require a six hour drive and a stay at my mother in laws. So the crowd wasn't the only thing that was involved in my decision.

QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Aug 20 2006, 09:56 PM)

I'm going to the 11/3 show and couldn't be more excited.

And you won't shut up about it either.

QUOTE (TheBigSwigg @ Aug 21 2006, 02:19 PM)

QUOTE (dynamite kido @ Aug 21 2006, 07:50 AM)

QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Aug 20 2006, 07:56 PM)

I think considering the stupidity that presents itself week in and out on monday nights on the USA network, the complaints about ROH are really minor and not worth giving up on the company. I'm going to the 11/3 show and couldn't be more excited.

I couldn't agree more.

I also think that it's insane that people allow crowds to stop them from going to a show.

It's not that the crowd stops me from going to the show, it's that they stop me from enjoying it as much.

I mean, I can't handle hearing some kid IN THE VERY BACK ROW yell "Prince Justice" at Abyss 87 times (The Very back row thing annoys me because I would work several hours for a ticket. That's at least a half a day of work so I can sit close, while this kid probably bummed the money off his parents.) That's just ridiculous. After a while it starts to eat at me. I can't focus on watching the match. I get irritated any time the kid yells anything. It totally ruins the show for me. Honestly, I prefer Japanese crowds. I used to enjoy the ECW type crowds, but people these days aren't cheering or chanting because they're passionate about the product. They're cheering because it's "cool" to be loud and immature.

Maybe I'm just becoming an old fart. I don't know. I don't even enjoy mosh pits anymore.

And just to add, going to the show would now require a six hour drive and a stay at my mother in laws. So the crowd wasn't the only thing that was involved in my decision.

I totally understand what you are talking about, and I didn't necessarily mean YOU when I brought up the crowd thing. The six hour drive would be enough to nix it. I've only attended two ROH shows ever. One was Round Robin Challenge II and that was about a 30 mintues drive for me. The other was At Our Best and that was a 6 hour drive to Jersey. Otherwise, I don't have the time or money to travel to their shows....

Crowds can be annoying during shows, though I wouldn't stop them from going. At the ROH show I went to last fall, I was getting annoyed with a section of fans that kept yelling "smarky advice" to Austin Aries, to try and tell him how he should be wrestling the match so the quality would be better. He finally told them to "shut up" after they proclaimed a grappling exchange with Roderick Strong was "awkward."

That night Aries gained 12 points of overness. I would've given him 20 if he dove into that section.

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