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Title: Hulk Hogan Backstage for Smackdown
Description: It WAS in Tampa, FL, so thats natural...


Scrooge McSuck - January 12, 2005 05:13 PM (GMT)
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Hulk Hogan was backstage at the Smackdown tapings yesterday in Tampa, FL...

I've heard from a reliable source that Hogan spent most of his time at the show with Shane McMahon although it's believed he did meet with Vince earlier in the day.

He was also seen talking to JBL for a few minutes who was overheard saying: "Hulk Hogan this is your belt I am just carrying it."

Hogan was well received by the locker room and left shortly after the show got underway.

Also at the show Dan Rodimer from Tough Enough and boxer Winky Wright were sat front row.

Credit To: That annoying guy who steals his news from PWInsider & Meltzer.


Not much of news, I admit, but this could mean something down the line. Maybe Hogan will come back again? Maybe not? Hogan rarely visits WWE shows (even if they were in his hometown) without a reason.

Nice to see though the locker room respects Hogan. Maybe not one of the best wrestlers, and sure he played politics (what main eventer hasn't?), but you should respect the person that put WWE on the map. in the 80's.

BRING BACK HOGAN!

The Shadow - January 12, 2005 06:15 PM (GMT)
Who's the source for this? It's interesting that neither PWInsider or the Observer had the kind of detail that this guy has. Sounds like he made most of the detail up.

Scrooge McSuck - January 12, 2005 06:17 PM (GMT)
I forgot you don't post at the message board in question. Someone with a whacky name like Wrestling365 or something. He generally steals information from Meltzer for his "Newsletter". When he doesn't, he's amazingly (close to) accurate with most of the stuff he says.

TehDoct0r - January 12, 2005 07:28 PM (GMT)
Mr. America is coming back to feud with Mohammed Hassan!

dynamite kido - January 12, 2005 07:45 PM (GMT)
OKAY, as a rule. Could nobody here post news from wrestling365. It's really only bullshit. It Meltz, pwinsider or 1wrestling say something.....post it. But some other sites are all either stolen from them or its bullshit rumors. Hell, Meltz and the others aren't always right either......so lets at least keep the bullshit to a minimum.

Mad Dog - January 12, 2005 07:49 PM (GMT)
Isn't that just that Glenn idiot with a different name?

Scrooge McSuck - January 12, 2005 07:53 PM (GMT)
I have no idea... he was using different names while this guy was posting, but it's a good chance. Only a dumbass would use two different names and try to fool people... (shuts up)

Scrooge McSuck - January 12, 2005 08:26 PM (GMT)
From the Torch site:

-Hulk Hogan, Brian Nobbs, and B. Brian Blair were backstage at the Smackdown tapings last night just to visit. There continues to be talk of Hulk Hogan being involved in WrestleMania. There is a talk of Hogan and Rock teaming together, or Hogan being honored with induction into the WWE Hall of Fame. With so many wrestlers living in the Tampa area, it's not unusual for Tampa WWE events to be a virtual High School Reunion of sorts.

Excuse me... (creams pants about 603898394823 times)

TehDoct0r - January 12, 2005 08:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Charlotte Bobcat @ Jan 12 2005, 02:26 PM)
From the Torch site:

-Hulk Hogan, Brian Nobbs, and B. Brian Blair were backstage at the Smackdown tapings last night just to visit. There continues to be talk of Hulk Hogan being involved in WrestleMania. There is a talk of Hogan and Rock teaming together, or Hogan being honored with induction into the WWE Hall of Fame. With so many wrestlers living in the Tampa area, it's not unusual for Tampa WWE events to be a virtual High School Reunion of sorts.

Excuse me... (creams pants about 603898394823 times)

Hogan and Rock vs The Nasty Boys vs the Killer Bees at WRESTLEMANIA!

SamoaRowe - January 12, 2005 08:32 PM (GMT)
While Hogan would make Smackdown seem less like the B-show, he would ultimately hurt the brand by hogging the spotlight and then just disappearing the second he and Vince aren't agreeing on how storylines are going anymore.

That and he's, um, really old. I thought he was too old to be a top player in 2000, let alone 2005.

Scrooge McSuck - January 12, 2005 08:34 PM (GMT)
He makes me watch Smackdown, so there's the plus side.

Hogan on Smackdown: Me watch almost every week, even when I worked.
Hogan not on Smackdown: Uh... is anything on? ANYTHING?!

SamoaRowe - January 12, 2005 08:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Charlotte Bobcat @ Jan 12 2005, 02:34 PM)
He makes me watch Smackdown, so there's the plus side.

Hogan on Smackdown: Me watch almost every week, even when I worked.
Hogan not on Smackdown: Uh... is anything on? ANYTHING?!

I was getting a guilty pleasure out of the whole "Mr. America" think in 2003. However, I would dread the thought of more Smackdowns where he takes his 15 minutes to do the same promo he's always done and then have some heel come out and go "I'm going to KILL Hulkamania!"

dynamite kido - January 12, 2005 11:53 PM (GMT)
Seriously, if they are thinking on bringing in Hogan for anything else than a Hall of Fame thing, or a simple Mania match............they are only going to be sorry in the long run.

Scrooge McSuck - January 12, 2005 11:55 PM (GMT)
Hogan brings the crowd to life when he comes out. Stick him into a match following something shitty, which, on the Smackdown side, won't be too difficult to do.

PedigreeMC - January 13, 2005 02:20 AM (GMT)
Well thats certainly good news to me. Smackdown really has taken quite a fall since Mr America left the brand, such a shame. Its going to be good seeing him back, whatever role it might be. It'll at least give me one reason to watch the show again because its just horrible right now. He can't hurt the show if you ask me.

Hopefully he gets a main event role at Mania hehe.

whitemilesdavis - January 13, 2005 02:27 AM (GMT)
Hogan is the opposite of what WWE needs right now. I didn't like the guy to start with, but for those of you who did, you have to admit his time is far passed. Vince needs a new Hogan now, plus a new Rock, and new Austin. The old ones are done.

Mad Dog - January 13, 2005 02:34 AM (GMT)
I think as a special attraction or manager that they could use Hogan. Maybe have him on once a month for an interview or involvement with a match and hype it up a lot. As long as he isn't winning titles I think they could use him.

Scrooge McSuck - January 13, 2005 02:35 AM (GMT)
He could win the Tag Titles. Lord knows nothing can be worse than having the Bahsam Fucking Brothers as champions again when their last reign bombed and were jobbed out clean to SCOTTY TOO HOTTY & RIKISHI.

PedigreeMC - January 13, 2005 02:36 AM (GMT)
I would like to see him in a Commissioner type role really. Or perhaps just something that capitalizes on the nostalgia factor. As hard as it may be to argue (seriously, not as the supermark which you may see once I get to know you guys better) that he hasn't lost a step in the ring, its also hard to argue against the reactions he gets from fans. Hogan and only Hogan has gotten mot one but multiple 10 minute standing ovations from fans around North America.

Scrooge McSuck - January 13, 2005 02:38 AM (GMT)
Surprisingly, the two televised were in CANADA. AN AMERICAN HERO CHARACTER WHO PREACHED ABOUT LOVING AMERICA, was given 10 minute standing ovations... IN CANADA.

TehDoct0r - January 13, 2005 05:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Charlotte Bobcat @ Jan 12 2005, 08:38 PM)
Surprisingly, the two televised were in CANADA. AN AMERICAN HERO CHARACTER WHO PREACHED ABOUT LOVING AMERICA, was given 10 minute standing ovations... IN CANADA.

Because, despite all the bullshit politics he played, Hogan (and certain bookers and creative people) changed the landscape of the industry. TWICE. Well, I don't know if everyone thinks the nWo counts, but I do. And lots of people respect that (ie me). And lots of other people just know that he's Hulk fucking Hogan and they're trained to cheer for him.

Scrooge McSuck - January 13, 2005 06:07 AM (GMT)
Eevryone is entitled to their own opinions. I REALLY never liked Brock Lesnar, but I have to stomach all the verbal blowjobs about him being a great wrestler (his best matches were carry jobs by the obvious people). People hate Hogan because of "politics". Face it, the guy drew money with whoever he worked with in the 80's. Obviously he was doing the smart thing.

Bobby Heenan says in his Shoot Interview, that the wrestlers who didn't like Hogan were jealous, because Hogan worked with people who can draw, and if he didn't, that means you can't draw. He then said if a grape could draw money, Hogan would work with it.

TehDoct0r - January 14, 2005 06:04 AM (GMT)
Werd up. And he did it in an entertaining fashion, for the most part.

By the way, I heart Lesnar, and I hope to God he arranges a way to come back. Or swallow his pride, take a pay cut, go to TNA, and destroy Monty Brown. I'd be happy.

dynamite kido - January 14, 2005 02:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Charlotte Bobcat @ Jan 13 2005, 12:07 AM)
Eevryone is entitled to their own opinions. I REALLY never liked Brock Lesnar, but I have to stomach all the verbal blowjobs about him being a great wrestler(his best matches were carry jobs by the obvious people). People hate Hogan because of "politics". Face it, the guy drew money with whoever he worked with in the 80's. Obviously he was doing the smart thing.

Bobby Heenan says in his Shoot Interview, that the wrestlers who didn't like Hogan were jealous, because Hogan worked with people who can draw, and if he didn't, that means you can't draw. He then said if a grape could draw money, Hogan would work with it.

I would LOVE to hear your explaination of this one.

whitemilesdavis - January 14, 2005 05:26 PM (GMT)
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People hate Hogan because of "politics".


Not me. I could care less about backstage stuff. What I care about is what is put in front of me. I just don't find Hogan's matches or promos entertaining. No question he's one of the biggest draws in history. Obviously most people disagree with me, or that wouldn't be the case.

Scrooge McSuck - January 14, 2005 05:28 PM (GMT)
Do you really want me to argue for pages with "grasping at straws" knowledge? I'm way too bias against Brock and bickering would just never stop.

Anyway, my 2 favorite Brock matches were against Benoit (Early 12/03 SD) and Eddie Guerrero (NWO). I'm sure Brock was doing his best in those matches, but considering he's had countless forgetable matches over the 2 years he was on the roster, it doesn't surprise me that his best matches happend to be against the 2 best wrestlers on the (at the time) Smackdown roster.

However, I did enjoy all the Brock/Show matches. This could be credited I think to the booking. All of the earlier matches were quite short and inoffensive, and they actually had a pretty fun match at Judgment Day 2003.

From a bias point, I think Brock is one of the more over-rated wrestlers recently, but from a straight POV, he's not that bad, but I still don't understand the love for his in ring stuff and promos. He just feels like another generic hoss (one that doesn't suck that is), except he has abut 10000% more athleticism.

dynamite kido - January 14, 2005 06:28 PM (GMT)
No I wasn't asking for bickering, I was just asking you to explain how Brock was carried in every good match he had in his career. I'm pretty sure he carried Cena to probably the best match he's had in the WWE for an example. Also, I would say that Brock is FAR from a generic hoss as he has charisma and is very imposing in his look. He had the "million dollar look" so to speak. Plus, how many other wrestlers can say that there best matches in the WWE were against Eddie/Benoit? I guarantee there are plenty. Honestly, I'm pissed that he quit in the first place because I could imagine where he'd be now as far as character and overall ringwork. He was constantly improving when he was there and I'm sure if that pace would have kept up he would have eclipsed 90% of the roster as far as in-ring work goes at least.

Scrooge McSuck - January 14, 2005 06:38 PM (GMT)
Which match against Cena? I can only think of 1, and it's their Backlash 2003 match that was 15:00 of not-so-good wrestling. To be fair though, Brock was still nowhere near ready to have to carry the weight of a match, and Cena was never good to begin with.

If Brock hadn't left, I could see him being one of the better wrestlers, since (I will admit) he was improving. He went from being one of the reasons I hated watching WWE in 2002 (specifically because of the God push he was getting despite not being over or any good) to someone I wouldn't turn Smackdown off because of.

However, my main problem about Brock is his attitude. Because of 1 or 2 bad feud decisions, he is tired of wrestling. To be more specific, he was set for a feud with the Undertaker who was returning to his deadman gimmick (a.k.a guess who isn't jobbing?), and pretty much quit right around the time that decision was made.

People complain about how Brock was booked like shit in 2004 versus Hardcore Holly, and was then being set up to job to Undertaker. They also forget about people like The Undertaker having 4 years of non-stop garbage thrown at them.

I'm sure everyone wants to forget, but the Undertaker has not been immune to crap feuds (see anything from 1993-1996), as well as Triple H (Necrophillia!?), Eddie Guerrero (Racism?), Big Show (big goof), and other countless top carders that I hope I don't need to explore, because thinking back on horrible angles makes me upset.

dynamite kido - January 14, 2005 06:52 PM (GMT)
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Which match against Cena? I can only think of 1, and it's their Backlash 2003 match that was 15:00 of not-so-good wrestling. To be fair though, Brock was still nowhere near ready to have to carry the weight of a match, and Cena was never good to begin with.


Well, let me explain one thing. I dislike the Cena/Brock match......STILL it's Cena's best match at this point(I know it's not saying much...) and that was the only point I was making. Hell, with the fact that Brock SHOULDN'T have been able to carry someone of the level of Cena(at that time Cena was even worse than he is now) and the fact that the match is even watchable is a credit. Now maybe it's just varying opinions and we simply just agree which is fine. But I do hope you see where I'm coming from.

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If Brock hadn't left, I could see him being one of the better wrestlers, since (I will admit) he was improving. He went from being one of the reasons I hated watching WWE in 2002 (specifically because of the God push he was getting despite not being over or any good) to someone I wouldn't turn Smackdown off because of.


This is why I like Brock.......they were putting on some of the best SD's ever at that time.

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However, my main problem about Brock is his attitude. Because of 1 or 2 bad feud decisions, he is tired of wrestling. To be more specific, he was set for a feud with the Undertaker who was returning to his deadman gimmick (a.k.a guess who isn't jobbing?), and pretty much quit right around the time that decision was made.


I couldn't agree with you more.........I'm making an arguement for his ringwork though.....I can't even defend his shitty attitude.

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People complain about how Brock was booked like shit in 2004 versus Hardcore Holly, and was then being set up to job to Undertaker. They also forget about people like The Undertaker having 4 years of non-stop garbage thrown at them.


Yeah, but the Undertaker is a guy that will be over no matter what. Brock could have been booked like shit and then it kills his career. Now, if he was on top for 5-6 years.....that may be a different story. It was Brock's time to job and I personally don't think he should have either. BUT, I don't think losing to Taker would have hurt him as much.....so he should have just done it. He could have gotten his win back later though.........

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I'm sure everyone wants to forget, but the Undertaker has not been immune to crap feuds (see anything from 1993-1996), as well as Triple H (Necrophillia!?), Eddie Guerrero (Racism?), Big Show (big goof), and other countless top carders that I hope I don't need to explore, because thinking back on horrible angles makes me upset.


Well, Undertaker's reasoning for being in those fueds might not be what you think. He's had a schedule for years that have had his personal imput. He fights guys that HE generally wants to work with and it's been that way for YEARS. Same for Triple H as we all know that he does what he wants and he actually DID the Katie Vick angle.......he could have vetoed it. Personally, I liked the Eddie one as even though it was done in poor taste......it was still a decent angle(hell wrestling is built on low brow angles and has been that way for years). As far as Show goes though, his inability to loose weight and his lazyness have attributed to his career slumps more than shitty booking as well.

Scrooge McSuck - January 14, 2005 07:00 PM (GMT)
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Well, let me explain one thing. I dislike the Cena/Brock match......STILL it's Cena's best match at this point(I know it's not saying much...) and that was the only point I was making. Hell, with the fact that Brock SHOULDN'T have been able to carry someone of the level of Cena(at that time Cena was even worse than he is now) and the fact that the match is even watchable is a credit. Now maybe it's just varying opinions and we simply just agree which is fine. But I do hope you see where I'm coming from.


Yikes... I personally don't enjoy Cena, but I think his best match was against (gulp) The Undertaker at Vengeance in 2003. Some people hate how it worked (Undertaker squashes Cena for 7 minutes, then Cena beats on Undertaker for 10 minutes), but Cena actually looked like a credible top tier wrestler and the Undertaker kinda put him over without actually jobbing.

IIRC, Undertaker won with the Last Ride a la Wrestlemania X-Seven where Cena had him in the corner and just took too much time and was too cocky.

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This is why I like Brock.......they were putting on some of the best SD's ever at that time.


I won't argue this point. Smackdown was lightyears better than RAW. ON Smackdown you had Team Angle vs. Benoit & Edge. On RAW, you had Booker T & Goldust vs. Three Minute Warning for the 54th time.

The rest of your points I have to agree with, and won't attempt to argue them (mainly the feuds being low brow and very cheap)




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