Title: OAO Summerslam Thread
Mad Dog - July 24, 2006 06:30 AM (GMT)
Let us all put the horror that was the Great American Bash behind us now.
dynamite kido - July 24, 2006 12:29 PM (GMT)
So far potential card.....
Hogan/Orton
Batista/Booker
Rey/Chavo
whitemilesdavis - July 24, 2006 01:26 PM (GMT)
I don't want them to pull the trigger on Batista/ Booker just yet. I think with the proper build, that could actually draw. Plus, I'd like Booker to keep the title for a while.
dynamite kido - July 24, 2006 01:28 PM (GMT)
I don't think it would be a draw, but with those two getting in that "legit" scuffle, it could be a decent little feud.
whitemilesdavis - July 24, 2006 01:32 PM (GMT)
I think in terms of Smackdown "Stars", it is the biggest possible draw they have.
dynamite kido - July 24, 2006 02:04 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ Jul 24 2006, 07:32 AM) |
| I think in terms of Smackdown "Stars", it is the biggest possible draw they have. |
Well, I know what you mean.
For some reason I'd like to see a Batista/Rey feud...
whitemilesdavis - July 24, 2006 02:11 PM (GMT)
Rey needs to recoup from his awful title run. Find some way to get him fresh again, get Batista over as a heel, and you've got a good program.
dynamite kido - July 24, 2006 02:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ Jul 24 2006, 08:11 AM) |
| Rey needs to recoup from his awful title run. Find some way to get him fresh again, get Batista over as a heel, and you've got a good program. |
Well, yeah. That's what I meant. Plus, I could see Chavo putting him out for a while to build himself up and so Rey can recoup his injuries.
Plus, from the sound of what happened at the PPV......Mr Kennedy is in for a push as well.
whitemilesdavis - July 24, 2006 02:20 PM (GMT)
jamiegeist - July 24, 2006 03:26 PM (GMT)
Am I mistaken, or wasn't Kennedy-Batista to be a #1 Contender's Match? Thus making Kennedy the #1 Contender.
I'm sure we'll get a rematch on Smackdown, thus rendering another pointless PPV even more pointless.
dynamite kido - July 24, 2006 03:27 PM (GMT)
I could be wrong, but I don't remember them mentioning anything about Bautista/Kennedy being a #1 contender match.
jamiegeist - July 24, 2006 03:40 PM (GMT)
Well, I'm basing it on the fact that Batista v Henry was to be a #1 Contender's match (or so I thought).
dynamite kido - July 24, 2006 03:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jamiegeist @ Jul 24 2006, 09:40 AM) |
| Well, I'm basing it on the fact that Batista v Henry was to be a #1 Contender's match (or so I thought). |
That MAY have been the case, but I dont think it was official. Assumed? Yes. Official? I don't think they mentioned it.
SamoaRowe - August 10, 2006 09:37 PM (GMT)
Well, Booker vs. Batista is official now. My money says that we get a new World Champion or we'll have a bullshit DQ ending.
Also, Flair vs Foley in an "i quit" match.
And Big Show vs. someone.
dynamite kido - August 10, 2006 10:29 PM (GMT)
I'm saying at Summerslam they will do Sabu vs. Show for the ECW title.
I also bet because of what happened on Tuesday they will do RVD/Angle too.
SamoaRowe - August 10, 2006 10:43 PM (GMT)
Looks like the addition of ECW means that Smackdown gets cut down to two matches at Summerslam. Chavo vs. Rey, and Booker vs Batista.
That's kinda shitty, eh?
dynamite kido - August 10, 2006 11:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Aug 10 2006, 04:43 PM) |
Looks like the addition of ECW means that Smackdown gets cut down to two matches at Summerslam. Chavo vs. Rey, and Booker vs Batista.
That's kinda shitty, eh? |
Well, it does help them considering that SD's roster has been destroyed by the wellness program.
SamoaRowe - August 10, 2006 11:34 PM (GMT)
Yeah, but I'm sure they'd still be able to fill four spots on a pay-per-view card. They could always add something like Kendrick/London vs. Regal/Finlay, or Finlay vs Lashley...
And nevermind, I guess Smackdown will have at least three matches on the show. I forgot about Khali/Undertaker.
dynamite kido - August 10, 2006 11:42 PM (GMT)
Khali/Taker is off of the show. Because they have FINALLY come to the conclusion that he can't wrestle on live TV. Everything they've aired with him has been apparently edited. They will have a match that will Main Event the SD before Summerslam.....because it'll be taped.
SamoaRowe - August 10, 2006 11:44 PM (GMT)
And then please tell me that they'll fire Khali... please tell me that, even if it's a lie...
dynamite kido - August 10, 2006 11:45 PM (GMT)
I would assume that will be next.....unless they think he's salvagable and they want to send him back down to the developmental areas.
SamoaRowe - August 10, 2006 11:57 PM (GMT)
I dunno. I remember that report back before Judgment Day where it said that WWE officials were beginning to realize that Khali was a lost cause. After that report, Khali went on to squash World Champion Rey Mysterio on Smackdown and cleanly beat The Undertaker at Judgment Day.
Colcollazo - August 12, 2006 01:54 AM (GMT)
Taker/Khali is off the card now? They can do Finlay/Regal/Lashley now, so that's good.
dynamite kido - August 12, 2006 02:45 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Colcollazo @ Aug 11 2006, 07:54 PM) |
| Taker/Khali is off the card now? They can do Finlay/Regal/Lashley now, so that's good. |
I don't think that is going to happen either...
prof_plague - August 12, 2006 03:24 AM (GMT)
According to Meltzer, Khali is so bad WWE is afraid to put him on live TV.
The only thing I wonder though, so bad as in he's still not feeling healthy enough to wrestle? So bad as in he doesn't know how to work WWE style and is astrocious in a WWE ring? So bad as in he's a threat to the person is wrestling, might not protect him in the match, and might possibly hurt that wrestler? Some combination of the three? Or something else all together?
dynamite kido - August 12, 2006 05:07 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (prof_plague @ Aug 11 2006, 09:24 PM) |
According to Meltzer, Khali is so bad WWE is afraid to put him on live TV.
The only thing I wonder though, so bad as in he's still not feeling healthy enough to wrestle? So bad as in he doesn't know how to work WWE style and is astrocious in a WWE ring? So bad as in he's a threat to the person is wrestling, might not protect him in the match, and might possibly hurt that wrestler? Some combination of the three? Or something else all together? |
It's because they don't think he's good enough for live TV. Everything Khali's done so far (besides the PPV match that him and Taker already had) has been heavily edited on TV.
prof_plague - August 21, 2006 01:29 AM (GMT)
Any idea how the show is coming along?
dynamite kido - August 21, 2006 01:48 PM (GMT)
Results - Credit - Da Meltz
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Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero opens the show. The finish can't come until Vickie Guerrero comes to ringside. JBL said that Rey exploiting Eddie's name is a disgrace.
I guess the crowd thought the same thing. By the time the match was over, the fans were not only booing Chavo, but booed Vickie coming out out to the ring, and then booed Mysterio as well. The crowd turned on Rey when he did the three amigos, clearly seeing the exploitation of Eddie went too far. Vickie tripped Rey when he was on top for the frog splash. Chavo then used a brainbuster and frog splash to win. Nothing at all wrong with the match, other than the idea behind it, but it didn't get over and nowhere close to what you'd expect from a singles match from these two.
Edge & Lita confronted Booker & Sharmell. Booker's fake British accent was way clumsy. The scripting of this was atrocious but Edge's delivery made it okay. Each challenged the other to come to their show this week.
Big Show vs. Sabu is up next. They don't even pretend the ECW title is anything more then prelim level. Show won after a spinebuster through one table, and a choke slam through another. It was what you'd expect. Kind of clumsy, a few big table breaking spots that got over, and a lot of sloppy shots as well. The first table Sabu brought out got a far bigger reaction than any wrestler that has appeared so far this night, which is a sad reflection of the babyfaces so far. Sabu got up and tried to play to the crowd for the sympathy reaction and got nothing.
Something is going on with Layla since we've got a video package on the finals.
It was her initiation. All the women dissed her but then did an about face. Basically they took her into the shower and started the shower and pulled up her dress to show ass shots.
Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Orton is up next. Hogan won with a legdrop in the middle. He did give Orton an RKO spot before the finish where Hogan didn't kick out, but got his foot on the rope to break the pin. Hogan got a super reaction. The match was okay given Hogan's limitations. He did his trademark stuff that he could do, but it was a basic simple stuff that Hogan did that mostly didn't look good. Funny gimmick infringement spot as a mock on Shawn Michaels was Hogan doing a crotch chop spot. That was funny as hell.
Ric Flair vs. Mick Foley is up next in the I Quit match. Match was a lot shorter than you'd think at less than 13:00. It was a bloody weapons match. Basically Foley destroyed Flair with a barbed wire board, barbed wire bat and thumb tacks. Flair bled as heavy as you'd expect. Flair then made a comeback using the barbed wire bat on Foley's arm. Foley took a Nestea plunge with his had cracking a garbage can and the trainer stopped the match. Flair refused to accept a trainer stop and said he wanted Foley to quit. Flair continued to beat on him and was using the barbed wire bat to his eye and Melina threw in the towel. Flair again refused to accept a towel thrown in as the finish. Flair took the bat and made threats of using the barbed wire bat on Melina and Foley then quit. It was a mostly just tons of bleeding and pain, no wrestling involved at all.
King Booker vs. Batista for the World title is up now. These guys are in a terrible position on the show with a dead angle and following two legends matches. Really bad. Everyone knew it, too. Crowd not much into it and Batista had nothing. He was is slow and tentative on everything he did. The fans will overlook it in Hogan, and I can't say they noticed it in Batista as much as he never got them going. Booker was okay, nothing more. Finish was Batista setting up a finish when Sharmell jumped on his back for the DQ. Post-match was supposed to be Batista giving him the Batista bomb, but he lost Booker the first time and had to do it a second time.
DX vs. McMahons is next. McMahons will have Umaga interfering and DX has a secret monster, who could be Khali. DX couldn't get the crowd going even one-third as loud as Hogan did, and you could see in HHH's face he wasn't happy about it, even after doing the cheap plug for Boston. The surprise was Kane, not Khali. Early in the match DX dispatched all five Spirit Squad members. Then it was Finlay, Show, Regal and Kennedy who laid out DX with Show putting HHH through the ECW table. For several minutes Vince & Shane beat up Shawn. HHH recovered. Final saw Shane tease doing a Van Terminator on HHH, but Shawn superkicked him. HHH hit Vince with a garbage can, Shawn used a superkick and HHH pinned Vince after a pedigree. It was good for what it was. Michaels hurt his right arm legit, maybe a shoulder separation or dislocation, when he and Shane went over the top rope on a clothesline bump together. You could see he was hurting bad and couldn't raise his arm.
Edge vs. John Cena is up last as the main event. Title can change hands via DQ. Real good main event. Several times Lita was about to interfere but Edge waved her off because he'd get DQ'd. Crowd booed Cena most of the match, but by the end the pro-Cena fans were a lot louder. Finish saw Lita give Edge Knux. Cena had both Edge & Lita on his back for a double FU. He dropped Lita and the Edge escaped and hit Cena with the Knux and got the pin to keep the title.
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Colcollazo - August 21, 2006 06:54 PM (GMT)
Summerslam actually had potential to be good, so it was dissapointing. Rey/Chavo was good aside from Vicki. It was nice when the crowd booed all three of them.
Show/Sabu was terrible. Sabu was just plain awful.
Hogan/Orton was alright considering how Hogan shouldn't be wrestling. Orton is pretty much fucked now. Losing to a 53 year old man who can't do squats isn't gonna help him unless they do a rematch.
I really enjoyed Flair/Foley, though it was a little short. Booker/Batista was slow and boring, it basically exposed Batista's rust. It is good that Booker retained though.
DX/McMahons was the typical stuff they've been doing for the whole year, only with more drama. Also Finlay stiffing HBK before the match was fun.
Cena/Edge was really good, just what they needed to keep the angle going.
It turned out decent but no more than that, I'm happy I didn't pay for it.
prof_plague - August 21, 2006 07:04 PM (GMT)
Meltzer is sounding more pretentious than usual.
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| Booker's fake British accent was way clumsy. |
Um, so? Who cares? I've studied to be a dialectian and I could care less.
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| Match was a lot shorter than you'd think at less than 13:00. |
I would've given the match about 15:00, so around 13 minutes isn't bad - especailly if you consider it's a 55 and 40 year old man juicing from the start. No wrestler should bleed for more than a few minutes before the match ends.
And as for Hogan's win, of course Hogan was going to win. Hogan has never losed at SummerSlam in his entire career. Why should Hogan put over Orton at SummerSlam when Undertaker wouldn't put over Orton at WrestleMania. Orton losed at WrestleMania to Undertaker, but won at SummerSlam; I see Orton losing at SummerSlam, but winning against Hogan at Royal Rumble or WrestleMania. If we're not going to see Hogan/Austin, they might as well book Hogan/Orton.
Colcollazo - August 21, 2006 07:43 PM (GMT)
Well, that was Taker and he shouldn't lose at WrestleMania, plus Orton was injured at the time anyway. But this is Hogan and it's less reasonable as he can't even bend his legs at this point. It'll eventually make sense if Orton goes over in a rematch, but right now it doesn't and Orton looks weak.
prof_plague - August 22, 2006 06:41 AM (GMT)
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From PWInsider:
The word we are getting on Shawn Michaels was that his arm/shoulder injury seemed to be much better last night, later in the evening. He was walking around backstage and moving his arm. He was said to be very concerned when he tweaked it though. It sounds like he had a stinger, but that hasn't been confirmed yet. We are continuing to look into it.
Mick Foley needed 25 stitches backstage after his match with Ric Flair.
I talked to a number of wrestlers who told me that there were a lot of things in the DX-McMahons match (such as ignoring the referee and rendering him useless, Triple H selling a beating forever then coming into the ring like nothing happened, etc.) that would have gotten them a talking to after the bout had they done it in their match. I was thinking the same thing when I watched the show.
Speaking of DX, it was well noted backstage that Hulk Hogan clearly "out popped" them and a number of people found it funny that Triple H tried to get a bigger pop for his match and couldn't do it. Say what you want about Hogan, but he's always over and always gets the big reaction.
Triple H's family was at ringside. He went over to them after his match, part of which was shown on camera.
Kurt Angle was originally scheduled to be a part of the ECW Title match, in a three way, but since his groin was injured, he was pulled out of the match. He is expected to work a squash match on tonight's ECW house show and see how it feels.
JBL's commentary rubbed a lot of people in the company the wrong way, especially the line about Eddie Guerrero and "the wagon". |
dynamite kido - August 22, 2006 04:16 PM (GMT)
Is it just me or are these PPV's getting more and more like 2000 WCW?
SamoaRowe - August 22, 2006 07:59 PM (GMT)
The show sounds pathetic and I'm glad I didn't end up ordering it, though it would've been fun to watch it with friends. And after last night, I might be ready to give up Raw for a while.
jamiegeist - August 22, 2006 08:35 PM (GMT)
Me too. WWE just plain sucks. And when they're on the verge of something good (Edge's new title reveal, Hardy's return match) they drop the ball and fuck it up.
Mad Dog - August 22, 2006 08:56 PM (GMT)
Vicky Guerrero's heel turn is easily the most disgusting thing the WWE has ever done.
Colcollazo - August 22, 2006 10:18 PM (GMT)
She didn't turn heel, she tripped Rey by mistake.
Mad Dog - August 22, 2006 10:23 PM (GMT)
That's as good as turning heel anymore.
My net was gone as of Sunday night until earlier today. So I missed the initial reactions and the reports I read made it sound more heelish than it might've been.
SamoaRowe - August 22, 2006 11:45 PM (GMT)
I'll admit, I marked out when Cena threw Edge into the water last night.
Just because it was cool and all B)
Everything else... hell, I hardly remember what happened last night, except I complained many times about McMahons being on tv.