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Mad Dog - June 23, 2006 01:58 PM (GMT)
I've really started to enjoy and appreciate him again since he showed up in TNA. Just a really entertaining heel.

One thing that I think TNA does incredibly well right now is playing to people's strengths while hiding weaknesses. Steiner barely wrestlers and they just let him talk. Wow, that's so hard to do the WWF could never figure that out. I honestly think he should get the title at Victory Road so that Samoa Joe can chase him for it.

I've also found Nash to be at his most entertaining since his early Wolfpack days.

dynamite kido - June 23, 2006 02:59 PM (GMT)
SCOTT STEINER SHOULD NEVER GET THE TITLE.....PERIOD.

Even though he's done well since being in TNA.

Real F'n Show - June 23, 2006 03:01 PM (GMT)
I've always been a Steiner fan and yes I would agree the playing to his strengths is working perfectly. I'd say he's probably the best heel in the United States right now and if they keep putting him in matches with guys like Samoa Joe his in-ring work will really start to improve as well.

Mad Dog - June 23, 2006 03:01 PM (GMT)
I don't think he should be long term or anything but I think they could draw with Joe taking the title off of him.

whitemilesdavis - June 23, 2006 03:11 PM (GMT)
I would definitely give Steiner the belt. I believe their is big money to be made for a long term program of Joe chasing Steiner for the title.

Mad Dog - June 23, 2006 03:17 PM (GMT)
I agree.

At Victory Road you have Steiner win that match and face Jarrett. Jarrett gets all cocky thinking Steiner will roll over for him and just have Steiner go crazy and destroy Jarrett for the title.

Then at the next PPV you do Steiner/Sting with Steiner getting DQed.

Then at the next show you do Steiner/Joe with Steiner not being able to beat Joe so he just gets himself DQed.

Then you go into another PPV and say since Steiner can't play by the rules that there will be no rules. Steiner/Joe in a cage match. Joe wins the title after a bloodly brawl.

And then for Sting's final match in the company you have him go down clean to Joe in a title match at Turning Point in December.

dynamite kido - June 23, 2006 03:43 PM (GMT)
Yeah, but to have him face JJ then he'll turn face by default. He would have been better to beat Xian for it if anything.

Especially since he already jobbed to Joe. If they were going to do this they shouldn't have had them fight already. The magic won't last with that feud...

Mad Dog - June 23, 2006 03:44 PM (GMT)
He'll be a face for the win over Jarrett but Steiner can turn everyone against him again in a matter of moments.

dynamite kido - June 23, 2006 04:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mad Dog @ Jun 23 2006, 09:44 AM)
He'll be a face for the win over Jarrett but Steiner can turn everyone against him again in a matter of moments.

I know that, but that's really what TNA needs to STOP doing. They have a hard enough time creating faces and heels as it is. They NEED to be more consistant as far as that goes.

whitemilesdavis - June 23, 2006 04:13 PM (GMT)
I agree with DK that you couldn't have him face JJ. This is part of why I've been saying they booked themselves into a corner with this latest JJ title win.

jamiegeist - June 23, 2006 04:28 PM (GMT)
I personally loved Jarrett winning King of the Mountain, and like him going back on top with the title, if they choose to go that route.

I think Joe-Jarrett is where the money is, and now is the time to get the peices in place for the push into that eventual program.

whitemilesdavis - June 23, 2006 04:34 PM (GMT)
Why? Jarrett is completely played out as far as this crowd goes. I can't think of one positive to him being champ again.

dynamite kido - June 23, 2006 04:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ Jun 23 2006, 10:34 AM)
Why? Jarrett is completely played out as far as this crowd goes. I can't think of one positive to him being champ again.

Especially if you saw Impact last night. When the crowd heard Cornette say he's firing someone last week, they immediately went for Jarrett. That's not heat, that's X-pac heat.

Mad Dog - June 23, 2006 05:08 PM (GMT)
You're not really turning Steiner face though. He's just in a match with Jarrett and the crowd happens to hate him less. He just comes out the next night, does his usual thing and he's hated again. Doesn't hurt anyone in the process and it will be fine as long as they really sell the fact that the crowd is cheering for him because they hate Jarrett more than they hate Steiner at the moment.

whitemilesdavis - June 23, 2006 05:17 PM (GMT)
Then how will Steiner be the top heel if it's obvious someone else is hated more? And I disagree anyway, If Steiner pummels JJ, he will be TNA's top face instantly.

Mad Dog - June 23, 2006 05:20 PM (GMT)
You could remove Jarrett from the picture entirely after that so that he is the top heel. Or just have him take a backseat to Steiner. It can be done and Steiner is a strong enough heel and promo to not keep face heat off of beating Jarrett.

whitemilesdavis - June 23, 2006 05:21 PM (GMT)
So the main event of your PPV is gonna be heel vs. heel? Where's the payoff?

dynamite kido - June 23, 2006 05:26 PM (GMT)
I'm with WMD on this one. In a perfect world MD, you're idea could work. But this isn't a perfect world.

jamiegeist - June 23, 2006 05:30 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I don't think Jarrett-Steiner would work at all. It is too dangerous with the reactions Steiner has been getting lately from the retards in the Impact zone. He & Nash got postivie reactions, where good portions of the fans got on Joe & Sabin.

dynamite kido - June 23, 2006 05:30 PM (GMT)
Plus, do we even need to get into the shitfest of a match that could end up being?

jamiegeist - June 23, 2006 05:31 PM (GMT)
Haha. Very good point. Although I was pleasantly surprised by Joe-Steiner, and really even the entire card as a whole at Slammiversary.

dynamite kido - June 23, 2006 05:35 PM (GMT)
Same here, but I don't think I need to tell you that Steiner/Joe is MUCH different from Steiner/JJ.

jamiegeist - June 23, 2006 05:37 PM (GMT)
Yes, trust me, I don't want any part of Double J/Steiner. I don't think it is even a good idea at all to put the title on Steiner, in any way. I know, it may be hypocritical, as I am for Jarrett holding the belt.

Basically I'm just so uninspired and down on Christian's reign as champ, that I want something new. They don't currently have a face developed that can hold it, and they blew their chance to have a monster heel champ in Abyss, so I default back to Jarrett. He at least draws heat, even if it is the wrong kind of heat.

Mad Dog - June 23, 2006 05:48 PM (GMT)
I think it's worth the risk. The only other way to get it onto Steiner is doing 2 hotshot reigns. If someone's going to take it off of Jarrett they have to hold it for awhile. You can't put it on Sting because he needs to lose it to a young gun. Jarrett can't retain. Christian just had the belt. You can't put it on Joe because then he can't chase Steiner for the title.

The money is in Steiner/Joe. I believe that angle will draw money for them and put them on the map financially. You get that going really well and then promise Joe capping it off by winning the title and you could pop a huge buyrate.

whitemilesdavis - June 23, 2006 06:29 PM (GMT)
I completely agree with your last paragraph.




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