It just occured to me that our world title scene in America right now is...unimpressive to say the least. Which one of these guys makes the most credible haevyweight champ, and why are the other two below him?

I have to say Rey, even though he is the newest champ.

Christian frankly just isn't doin it for me, and doesn't really bring a "higher status" to the title.

Cena of course, is having issues with the heel/face thing. And can't wrestle. But I'll say this: he IS over. Just a matter of how you look at it.

I've voiced my opinions on Rey as champ before, and don't want this to turn into that same old thread. Quickly, he is just too small and he can't cut a promo. I just don't believe he would ever really pin Mark Henry...or Randy Orton for that matter.

That being said, he is much more convincing than Christian. I just don't see what Christian brings to the table as a champ. At least Rey is fast and can fly. I don't see any evidence that he can even have a great match. I don't hate Christian, he's just incredibly bland in the ring.

Thus, by default John "Suckbag" Cena is the best champ in the world right now, and that is pathetic.

In kayfabe terms, John Cena is by far the most credible. In the last year he has:

-Won the WWE title at WrestleMania by defeating the longest reigning world champion since Diesel.

-Retained the title in matches against JBL, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Christian, Shawn Michaels, Chris Masters, Carlito, Edge, Kane, and Triple H.

-Only lost the WWE title in a surprise defense against Edge, minutes after he had won an elimination chamber match.

-Retained the WWE title in this year's WrestleMania main event.

Sure, he's getting booed and his ring abilities are questionable, but no one can dare say Cena isn't credible in kayfabe terms.

Actually in kayfabe terms Rey would be the most credible and to me period Rey is the most credible.

In the sport of wrestling there are things that need to be done period just for the simple fact that it's a worked sport. Suspending belief would be one of them. This is the case for Rey because like WMD said you wouldn't believe him to be the type of guy that could beat Orton or a Mark Henry. Therefore, that is also what makes him the most credible. See the money in Rey being champion is that he is the uber babyface. That means that no matter what happens that he is generally the underdog in basically any match or feud he is in. People tend to pay to see if the underdog can overcome the insurmountable odds against them. Thus making Rey champion could be a great idea. Another thing you'll see with this reign is that I highly doubt they are going to put him up against people like Mark Henry or someone like The Undertaker. You're most likely to see him face guys like Angle, Orton, Benoit etc. This way the focus won't be OMG how's he gonna beat a 400lb man, it's going to be lets see if he can out wrestle someone like Angle and etc. Plus, if they did put him in a feud or whatnot against a bigger guy you'll see how they pull kayfabe out and use that to their advantage too. They'll have Rey get his ass kicked all the way until they have the match in which he'll miraculously survive and get the win.

Christian on the other hand simply isn't the most credibly champion because of where he wrestles. He was NEVER really a main event guy in the WWE and basically him going to TNA and winning their main title makes the company look a little bush league. Now I'm not saying it's going to be like that forever and with the right push and him putting on good matches, that can be changed over time. But for right now, I couldn't put my money on him as the most credible world title holder in the country right now.

Cena on the other hand is a whole other fish to fry. He's mainly not as credible as EITHER of them for several reasons. It's been well established that Christian is a solid enough wrestler and Rey is a superior worker...............neither of which could you say for Cena. Plus, out of the three.....he's the only one that is ALL gimmick and little substance. Rey has been consistantly over as a face and Christian has managed to get over as both heel and face. Cena hasn't gotten over and stayed over at any point in his career. THUS, making him even less credible in the standards that I think we are talking about here as champion.

I think Christian would be much more credible if: a ) they got a new title belt for him. I know the old one is traditional, but it's OLD. Not to mention it looks like a toy when folded. b ) He stopped being a teenager. This stuff with Abyss has the ability to make him a SERIOUS Champion. If he maintains that intensity and seriousness, he'd be an able champ.

Cena & Mysterio just don't do it for me. Most people on the WWE roster don't. Even HHH. They don't "demand" the respect that Austin or Rock did when they held the title.

I agree with you on the point of Christian. Him and Mysterio both are kind of in the same boat right now. Their reigns are going to interpret the kind of characters they have after they lose the titles. They can both go on to main event on their talent in the ring alone, but both of them have things that put them above your average worker. They both have charisma and both of them use it specifically to get over. If they are put in a position to GAIN heat and not lose it, they'll be fine for years. But if their respective pushes don't continually put them at that level...........it could be lost. That's why timing is important in wrestling.

I also see what you are saying about the Austin/Rock thing, but honestly I would put Triple H at that level as well. He at least was main eventing when those guys were around and in their primes. Cena never main evented at a big level and the only reason he did at this years Mania was because he was working with Trips. He's never even really went over that many people since becoming the champion in the first place. Angle was the only guy that comes to mind and those two had way too many matches in too soon of time on WWE TV and PPV.

So basically what I'm saying is Cena is a victim of the WWE not booking/pushing him correctly. That accompanying the fact that he is a mediocre worker to say the least has damaged him. The WWE themselves are thinking a heel turn would help Cena. Who knows? But the fact is that right now in the wrestling business that there are two other guys (Mysterio/Christian) that could have the same thing happen to them if they are handled poorly.

I'm going with Rey.

1. Cena sucks in his role for the last year, can't wrestle, and can't get the crowd on his side, no matter what he does or who he wrestles.

2. Christian, no matter how much I like him, isn't a main eventer. TNA did NOTHING to make him stand out from his WWE midcard role, and quite honestly, I forgot he was even champion.

Jake Roberts makes a point on his DVD when talking about the feud he was going to have against Hogan. They were going to jump start the feud with a Snake Pit segment in which Roberts DDT'ed Hogan. Except when Roberts delivered the DDT, instead of booing the fans started chanting "DDT, DDT!" Roberts then gives a line which WWE Creative need to think long and hard about: (paraphrased) When the Character behind all your merchandising money gets a reaction you're not looking for, go another direction.

If WWE Creative would actually use that, Cena would be in SUCH a better position right now. But they keep barrelling through, trying to explain the boos instead of finding something that works to prevent them. MORONS

I really wanted to say Rey but he's holding the HHH vanity belt so I went with Christian. Though I'd say Brock Lesnar as IWGP Champion is the most credible followed by Satoshi Kojima.

Lesner I could certainly agree with..........but as much as I like Kojima I would argue that.

Kojima doesn't have a couple things on his side that he desprately needs. One of them being that the Triple Crown has been shit since it's been on him. Now, that's not his fault. It's basically being a champion for a falling company that's the blame for that. With that being said I find it hard that anything with him versus major name talent in Japan would be taken seriously. Nobody would think that he could go over on a Kobashi, Misawa, and even Akiyama. Him going over on someone like Lesner would be even LESS likely. So basically he can't even stand up with the main champions in AJPW's main competition.

1. They have to have a GREAT, emotional, fight.

2. Christian must bleed buckets.

I think this feud with Abyss could elevate Christian to the next level. His promo on Saturday was the best he's ever done. It's the first time that Christian has ever said something that made people want to buy a PPV.

I think Kojima has some credibility because he's had a long reign. I might rethink that though.

I think afterward, he has to maintain the level of intensity he's had for this match, as well. We need to see something from Christian we haven't seen before, and that's intensity. After he beats Abyss, we need to see him command respect from the locker room, Jarrett included.

I vote none. Out of absolute sheer frustration.

I mean, I like Cage (who I'd vote for if forced) - but his TNA run has exposed him as someone who isn't cut out as main eventer - and TNA aren't willing to turn him heel, which could be what he needs

Did you see Impact last week? He really came out of his shell and showed an intensity that he's never showed before.

One time doesn't make him credible. He needs to be like that all the time. :)

True, but this feud with Abyss could make him credible as a champion if they have a brutal enough match.

I think it could help, but it's going to have to be effectiveness through the entire reign.

Christian is gaining a bit with me through this feud with Abyss. Honestly, Cena is gaining respect by the day with me due to his character change in WWE. And Rey, I love and respect and always will.