Title: FUCK ESPN!!!
Mad Dog - March 5, 2006 02:08 AM (GMT)
Tonight's the last straw with them. They're showing the Duke/UNC game on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU tonight.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - March 5, 2006 02:09 AM (GMT)
I could give a fuck less about Duke or UNC.
Mad Dog - March 5, 2006 02:13 AM (GMT)
It's fucking enough already. The Duke obsession on their stations is disgusting. Enough with the human interest stories about Duke players and enough with showing every Duke game during the season.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - March 5, 2006 02:16 AM (GMT)
And the 10 to 20 J.J. Reddick stories. The dude's a good shooter, but he's a terrible poet .
jamiegeist - March 5, 2006 04:27 AM (GMT)
I thought their multi-cast was actually pretty cool.
I was diggin the Above The Rim cam the most.
I like when they do things to take advantage of all their channels, kind of like when they do a game, and do a multi-cast showing the production truck and all that shit. Very cool.
eStragand - March 5, 2006 07:08 AM (GMT)
Not a college hoops fan at all, but I have to ask: it's early March-- what else could they be showing? You're only missing 4 hours of SportsCenter.
Scrooge McSuck - March 5, 2006 07:31 AM (GMT)
More Spring Training coverage. Major league baseball >>>> basketball. It requires more talent to play baseball than basketball. How do I know? Because I don't suck at basketball! :lol:
Mad Dog - March 5, 2006 01:06 PM (GMT)
Well they've shown exactly 1 World Baseball Classic game and that was at 4 in the morning.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - March 5, 2006 06:58 PM (GMT)
ESPN is part of the problem with the WBC. They spend so muc htime focusing on who's dropping out and the negative things they say that it makes me suspect they don't like it either.
Scrooge McSuck - March 5, 2006 08:17 PM (GMT)
The only WBC games I've seen have been major blow-outs, on top of being broadcasted at 2 and 4 in the fucking morning. Who is up during that time, other than drunks, unemployed moochers, and night watchmen?
jamiegeist - March 5, 2006 09:46 PM (GMT)
Baseball sucks ALOT more than Basketball. ALOT.
Any close college basketball game is 5 times as fun and exciting then a close Major League Baseball game. Just no contest.
And fuck you Scrooge! Baseball takes up like 9 fuckin months out of the year with their needlessly long season, extended out to the point where you can lose 5 games and no one fuckin cares. And you want MORE?! Ah, kiss my ass.
Scrooge McSuck - March 5, 2006 09:49 PM (GMT)
Basketball requires no talent. Wow! I jumped in the air and put a ball through the hoop! 2 points! Now we just need 120 more and we win!
Basketball is a worthless sport, and the only good part is the last 5 minutes, since everything before that is pointless. Either a team gets blown out of the water, or it comes down to the last shot. No need to watch it at 44-43, or 90-61.
jamiegeist - March 5, 2006 09:57 PM (GMT)
And no reason at all to watch baseball, because your favorite player may have just decided he didn't feel like playing today, since it doesn't matter. He can just play in the next game, or one of the other 375 games.
Baseball is the easiest sport in the world. I'll give pitchers all the credit in the world, cause thats different. People say hitting a baseball is one of the hardest things in sports. Sure, maybe it is. I don't know for sure. But it sure isn't hard to stand your ass in the outfield for 3 hours, where you MIGHT get the ball hit towards you. Or you miiiiiight have to run a total of 360 feet when you come up to the plate to bat.
Its just the most boring, rediculous sport in the world. You ever watch little league baseball? Why is it that the fat kid, the nerd, and the retard can all play on the same team? Have you ever seen a little league basketball team with a nerd? Fuck no, he gets hit in the face by a simple chest pass. Ever seen a fat kid? Yeah, laying on the sideline fuckin dying. And a retard in basketball? Yeah, they have a special set of rules for them, called the special olympics.
I can argue this forever, and I don't even know if I'm arguing about the talent required to play. I'm just arguing for the sport as a whole. Baseball sucks ass. Thats all.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - March 5, 2006 10:52 PM (GMT)
You gotta right to your opinion, but I disagree. Basketball is a sport where you don't even have to learn the fundamentals to play in the sport. Nobody knows how to dribble or defend in the NBA, with the exception of maybe two players, and only one of them actually can do something else. I want to know how it takes less talent to hit a baseball than it does to launch a shitload of wild 3's in a game and run up and down a court. All you ahve to do is be in shape, and if you're Shaq, you don't even have to do that.
jamiegeist - March 5, 2006 11:14 PM (GMT)
I was kind of taking all credibility out of my statement at the end, which I'll do again.
I just hate baseball.
eStragand - March 6, 2006 12:10 AM (GMT)
I don't hate basketball, but it doesnt' appeal to me cuz' it's: "go down one side, score. Go down other side, score. Go down first side, score. Go back down second side..oops, missed..now score".
Also, Basketball has a women's division at all levels.... 'nuff said.
A reason baseball does not, never has, or will "suck ass": there is no wave. Also, All-American Duke basketball player Dick Groat chose baseball over basketball and is on record as saying baseball is more challenging.
We're going to take you out into a cornfield, tie you to a stake and have James Earl Mutherfuckin' Jones lecture you on why you're not enlightened. No time limit, the manager wears the same uni as the players, there's no replay, etc...
Plus, you can beat the shit out of your opponent when it's called for. Sure, they'll break it up, but next time that team comes to town, someone's gettin' a fastball to the molars. Ask Roger Clemens about this.
The "stand your ass in the outfield" line is so wrong. Guys like Dante Bichete, Chili Davis and Craig Wilson made a mockery out of playing the outfield. But watch a guy like Juan Pierre or Jim Edmonds go balls-out tracking a ball down and then tell me that it requires no effort. And yes, I'm going to invoke the Name of Clemente and dare you to tell me how HE sat his ass in the outfield for 9 innings a night.
Plus, I don't know of an entire country that STILL rallies around a dead basketball player, 33 years after he croaked (see: Clemente and Puerto Rico).
TheGreatWhiteChoate - March 6, 2006 12:53 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eStragand @ Mar 5 2006, 08:10 PM) |
I don't hate basketball, but it doesnt' appeal to me cuz' it's: "go down one side, score. Go down other side, score. Go down first side, score. Go back down second side..oops, missed..now score".
Also, Basketball has a women's division at all levels.... 'nuff said.
A reason baseball does not, never has, or will "suck ass": there is no wave. Also, All-American Duke basketball player Dick Groat chose baseball over basketball and is on record as saying baseball is more challenging.
We're going to take you out into a cornfield, tie you to a stake and have James Earl Mutherfuckin' Jones lecture you on why you're not enlightened. No time limit, the manager wears the same uni as the players, there's no replay, etc...
Plus, you can beat the shit out of your opponent when it's called for. Sure, they'll break it up, but next time that team comes to town, someone's gettin' a fastball to the molars. Ask Roger Clemens about this.
The "stand your ass in the outfield" line is so wrong. Guys like Dante Bichete, Chili Davis and Craig Wilson made a mockery out of playing the outfield. But watch a guy like Juan Pierre or Jim Edmonds go balls-out tracking a ball down and then tell me that it requires no effort. And yes, I'm going to invoke the Name of Clemente and dare you to tell me how HE sat his ass in the outfield for 9 innings a night.
Plus, I don't know of an entire country that STILL rallies around a dead basketball player, 33 years after he croaked (see: Clemente and Puerto Rico). |
That's a damn compelling argument.
And jamie, no shame in hating baseball. I myself hate hockey. I was just debating your points.
Scrooge McSuck - March 6, 2006 01:00 AM (GMT)
How can you hate Hockey?! And one of your arguments better not be "because I can't pronounce their names." :P [/just kidding]
TheGreatWhiteChoate - March 6, 2006 01:01 AM (GMT)
How do you pronounce "Andreychuk?"
No, I'm kidding. I've never liked hockey, and I think it's at least somewhat because I'm from such a rabid hockey area that I just got sick of it. In a more grounded reason, it's a lot like soccer: nothing happens that compels me to watch it. Even the fights and the goals don't relaly entertain me.
Scrooge McSuck - March 6, 2006 01:10 AM (GMT)
I disagree on that Hockey/Soccer comparison. Soccer hate I can understand, though. It's usually 15 guys kicking a ball back and forth in the middle of the field. But Hockey moves at a super-fast pace, and during a tight games, goals are really exciting. Then you have the fights, but the ref's are too much of a pussy to let them go at it anymore.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - March 6, 2006 01:15 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Mar 5 2006, 09:10 PM) |
| I disagree on that Hockey/Soccer comparison. Soccer hate I can understand, though. It's usually 15 guys kicking a ball back and forth in the middle of the field. But Hockey moves at a super-fast pace, and during a tight games, goals are really exciting. Then you have the fights, but the ref's are too much of a pussy to let them go at it anymore. |
I'm just not a fan. Every now and then I'll watch one if nothing's on or go check out an AHL game, but I'd watch baseball, basketball, or football well before.
jamiegeist - March 6, 2006 02:08 AM (GMT)
That was a good argument. And its probably true.
I just hate baseball. It's probably mainly from jealousy. Its on more than my beloved NFL. The players make shitloads more money. The lack of a salary cap pisses me off.
Hell, I live in Kansas. Which means for most of my life, I've had to endure the total ass-sucking Royals. Thats probably what made me so damn bitter. Seeing all these great players grow in the system and then run away. I don't blame them or anything, it just sucks.
Scrooge McSuck - March 6, 2006 02:26 AM (GMT)
Cheer for an out-of-state team that doesn't suck. People do it all the time. :)
S.T. Strickler - March 6, 2006 02:28 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jamiegeist @ Mar 5 2006, 09:08 PM) |
That was a good argument. And its probably true.
I just hate baseball. It's probably mainly from jealousy. Its on more than my beloved NFL. The players make shitloads more money. The lack of a salary cap pisses me off.
Hell, I live in Kansas. Which means for most of my life, I've had to endure the total ass-sucking Royals. Thats probably what made me so damn bitter. Seeing all these great players grow in the system and then run away. I don't blame them or anything, it just sucks. |
Think you got it bad? Try being an Orioles fan.
Scrooge McSuck - March 6, 2006 02:31 AM (GMT)
You think you've got it bad, try being a Devil Rays fan.
S.T. Strickler - March 6, 2006 02:36 AM (GMT)
You think that's bad? Try having Peter Angelos as an owner.
Scrooge McSuck - March 6, 2006 02:40 AM (GMT)
eStragand - March 6, 2006 04:51 AM (GMT)
Ahh, the follies of the youth.... Royals were good until 1990 when they blew their wad by signing Mark Davis to an insane contract and then counting on Bo Jackson to become an annual MVP candidate.
Ahem... hockey? I'll give you basketball.. but HOCKEY?! You can gain a point in the standings by LOSING! (one point for an overtime LOSS). Who made that jackass touchy-feely rule...Oprah?! Plus, they play all those games for the sole purpose of eliminating the Maple Loafs from playoff contention. Also, if you're 185 and 5-11, you're a BIG GUY in hockey.
Of course, I have a personal vendetta against the sport. In spring 1997, The Coach of the Local Hockey Team commented on his team clinching their division title early and the concern about "staying sharp". He said, "well, eh, I don't know mooch aboot football eh...but I don't want our team to choke like the Broncos did, eh ". FUCK. YOU. IN. THE. EAR. You douchebag mullet-wearing flitsy Canadian DICK. His team then proceeded to lose.
Then in late 2000, I had some dweeb come to work at my old company. EVERY conversation I had with the guy would include "well, it's like when I was playing hockey..." or "it's kinda' like in hockey, when...". Really, hearing a guy relate Cold Fusion programming to hockey was excuriatingly painful. On his RESUME' he listed "Goalie"...and he played for a fucking rec league team. Fuck... I never listed "Catcher" on my job history, since I played that position in rec league softball.
Took one of my broads up to Evergreen for ice skating on some lake. About 13 guys were out there, on the public ice rink, wearing their full hockey gear (masks, pads, leg thingies)....and stumbling around. You'll never go to a public park and suddenly see 13 guys running around the fields in football helmets and full pads (notable exceptions being little league and high school teams, of course). "Dude, you doin' anythig today?" Naw". "Dude, let's put on our hockey stuff and go out in public!" "Duuuude"
Scrooge McSuck - March 6, 2006 05:08 AM (GMT)
Hockey brings the violence though, so it's still better than the NBA.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - March 6, 2006 05:45 AM (GMT)
Eh, we all like and hate different sports. The one thing we can all agree on is that football is awesome.
End of story.
Scrooge McSuck - March 6, 2006 05:53 AM (GMT)
TheGreatWhiteChoate - March 6, 2006 05:55 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Mar 6 2006, 01:53 AM) |
| NFL sucks dick. |
BURN IN HELL!
Scrooge McSuck - March 6, 2006 05:59 AM (GMT)
I plan to, thank you very much. :)
TheGreatWhiteChoate - March 6, 2006 06:08 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Mar 6 2006, 01:59 AM) |
| I plan to, thank you very much. :) |
I hear the weather's great this time of year.
jamiegeist - March 6, 2006 07:50 AM (GMT)
Scrooge must die.
And I remembered another reason I hate baseball. I don't think there is a tougher sport to play pick-up style than baseball. Basketball, you can play a legitimate game with only 2 people, and a great one with 4. Football you can even play with 3, with one guy playing QB, 1 as DB, and one as WR. 6 and you have an awesome little game. Even hockey, which I dabbled in the street variety as a youth, was awesome with 4.
But baseball? Sure, there is catch, and .500, and all that shit. But getting a legitimate competitive game of baseball takes at least 10 people I think. And thats probably being generous. Not to mention you need a shitload of equipment (Ball, Gloves, Bat compared to A Football, or A Basketball) and a playable surface as well.
So yeah. I just nailed it. I don't like baseball, because I didn't have enough friends as a kid.
Scrooge McSuck - March 6, 2006 07:56 AM (GMT)
You could always go to a Minor League Tryout to get some playing time. :P
Seriously, you make a good point. You can have a pretty good game of basketball with 3-on-3 on a half-court, and it requires 1 thing: a basketball (duh).
jamiegeist - March 6, 2006 07:57 AM (GMT)
For real. It honestly just hit me, at the 14th hour. It all makes sense now.
I mean, shit. Me and my friends started a backyard wrestling league and still didn't have enough people to play baseball.
Big F'N Swigg - March 7, 2006 12:37 AM (GMT)
A lot of what makes baseball really good isn't visible to people who haven't played/studied the game. I know a lot of people who think there is no strategy to baseball. There is, it's just not obvious.
Basketball, well..... It's fun, but it's annoying. It's got to the point where you can't watch/play a game without someone trying to be Jordan/Kode/Shaq. Hell, I was watching Tennessee/Arkansas, and Tennessee couldn't make a single layup because they were all circus shots. HOLD YOUR HANDS UP AND PUT THE BALL IN THE HOOP. If you get fouled, you get two free shots. It's not that big of a deal.
Hockey & Soccer are similar. Soccer's unwatchable to me because its a huge field, and I might as well watch a track meet. Hockey I like, but I don't know the rules/strategy. If I could meet someone WAY into Hockey, it would make me a HUGE fan.
Football, well, it's fun, but it can be annoyingly boring or stupid at times. You love it, or you don't.
EDIT: I'd also like to add that I hate ESPN because I only hear about Kobe, Bonds, Duke, etc. I'm even a Duke fan and I can't stand some of the coverage. How about equal time for everyone???
I honestly think that if FSN could play a national schedule with Regional material, they'd take ESPN down
Big F'N Swigg - March 15, 2006 10:58 PM (GMT)
I would like to add that whoever writes Sportscenter needs to be fired. And here's why:
"We're going to be following the Volunteers throughout their tournament experience which, according to ____ )______, won't be a long one."
Translation: Here's a reason to watch, but just kidding, don't watch.
BAD FOR BUSINESS, MORONS