This was announced on the CZW boards I believe....

I've found the whole angle to be really lame for the most part. NOAH and New Japan did it a lot better.

This actually sounds interesting. Hardcore wrestling vs. Pro wrestling. This is sounds good because there are some wrestlers who have worked for both CZW and RoH - like Trent Acid and Johnny Kashmere.

Yeah, it's the only thing either promotion has done to grab my interest lately. I was hoping they wouldn't go full scale promotion vs. promotion, but I'm still anxious to see where it goes.

from ROHnewswire...

And Christian Cage's opponent....

JARELLE CLARRRRK!

I'm thinking it'll be Joe. Since Joe's doing the whole "moving up" thing in TNA now...

I just wanted to say that because of the CZW vs. ROH stuff, I won't be at the Dayton show this weekend.

I won't be at the show because I'll be working...

You know I had been down on RoH for awhile but this crap has killed my interest completely in RoH. Ugh..... is this a stupid prentensious piece of shit feud.

I've got a few problems with this feud..

1. Neither company is big enough to warrant feuding. ROH is expanding, and I never thought CZW was that big anyhow.

2. There's no reason for the feud other than CZW is jealous of ROH. In which case, CZW should actually try to outdo ROH on THEIR OWN SHOWS.

3. I really don't care about CZW, and don't really care about it's workers. I don't want to go to an ROH show to see CZW workers.

And the big problem is that ROH has already done this feud with Steamboat and Foley. And frankly, it worked then because of who was involved. But why do I care what Necro Butcher & Chris Hero think? I don't respect either side enough at the moment to warrant this feud. And honestly, Jim Cornette is good and all... but he's not Steamboat. And there's no gray area in this feud. You're either ROH/Pure or CZW/Hardcore. Which is why it won't work. What if I like both? What if I don't have an opinion?

I totally agree with everything you said. And I'll just add the overall lameness of things like fake message board hackings and fans sending in reports about how they out chanted the other fed's fans. It really makes me ashamed to be a wrestling fan in a lot of ways.

2 things you guys are forgetting.

#1)Feuds like this are for the indy fanboys that cream their pants at indy companies feuding.

#2) Swiggy answered himself when he said about why does he care what Hero and Necro think. No one does, that's what makes them solid heels to the ROH crowd.

Hell, I'm not big on the feud either, but I'll keep quiet until I watch the stuff fully.........which will take me forever.

See.. not caring what they think doesn't make them a good heels to me. Even if you're a heel I should have a reason to care about what you're saying. Which is also why HHH is ineffective to me.

Here's the other thing.... I used to be stoked for every ROH show when they came through. Because of the workers, and because of the feuds. But now that this is the focal point of the company, I'm just not that into it. They could have anybody vs. Danielson for the title, and I wouldn't go. Partly because I know that it's gooing to be all about CZW vs. ROH.

And because it brings CZW fans in, who I've come to believe are worse than ROH/TNA fans

No no, reread what I said Swiggy. TO THE ROH CROWD. Not necessarily you, but it works with the way that their company is. It's for all of the ROHbots to just go all apeshit about how better ROH is than another promotion (although ROH IS a much better promotion.........). IT's like company giving itself a blowjob.

Gotcha. That makes sense.

I just can't see either company having the fanbase to make this an interesting feud

Here's a question:

Am I the only one that expected Claudio Castagnoli to join up with CZW

I thought that myself, but I'm glad they didn't.....he fits the ROH mold much better.

He turned on Adam Pearce at the last show.... He's CZW

Ahhhh, well nevermind. That certainly makes that angle much worse to me then.

I really don't get the smark hardon for Claudio. I mean he's ok but he's not someone I go out of my way to see or care about what they do. That's my whole problem with this feud. If I wanted to see the CZW guys I'd buy their shows. All this feud is doing is watering down the one product that I might watch.

Trust me, those guys are better in ROH than in CZW. I've been getting the harsh reality check that was CZW's Best of the Best 5.............every ROH I've seen for the most part I thought was better than that show.