Title: Top 10 Worst Finishers Ever
Mad Dog - January 27, 2006 06:43 PM (GMT)
This is my list and came about due to boredom.
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10. People's Elbow: It was an ok move for arrogant heel Rock. It was even ok during the initial stages of his big face runs with the company. It was not ok around 2001 when he'd endlessly play to the crowd and a guy would have to sit there for minutes waiting for the move. |
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9. Angle Slam: Just a lame move in general. It's a transitional kind of move not one to end a match. |
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8. Belly to Belly Suplex: Shane Douglas is who this is mostly aimed at though Ken Shamrock can be called out too. It's a glorified hug ok. Guys shouldn't be jobbing to the hold. It was completely business exposing with Douglas in ECW. Just watch Barely Legal. |
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7. Acid Drop: This is another business exposing move. Spike Dudley weighs 120 lbs. and any average person could just toss him on this move. At least Sliced Bread #2 sees the performer falling back on the person he's doing it to. Guys usually had to walk Spike around the ring a bit. |
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6. Side Slam: I used to hate this move when Dino Bravo did it. Maybe it was just the way he lightly put a guy on his back and pinned him. Maybe it was the way he ran around the ring like he was an airplane before his matches. I'll never know. |
The other 5 later.
Mad Dog - January 27, 2006 07:17 PM (GMT)
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5. The Claw: I'm going to make you submit by sticking my hand in your face!!! You really only needed to fear this move if you were in that Crawling Hand movie. |
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4. Spinning Punch: I don't remember the exact name for it when Von Erich was using it in the WWF. I always hate seeing him do the move and it could only become cool in my eyes if there's footage of his fake foot popping off in the process of doing it. |
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3. The Worm: It explains itself I think. |
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2. The Heart Punch: I can never truely express how happy it makes me that this move died out. The concept of the move is essentially that it's a specialized punch that stops the blood flow to the heart briefly. So you'd have a punch thrown and the other guy shake like a fish out of water. |
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1. The Garvin Stomp: This move was essentially Garvin stomping on each limb of a person and then finishing it off with a stomp to the head if I remember correctly. It took forever and Garvin was just a lame wrestler to begin with. |
Colcollazo - January 27, 2006 07:30 PM (GMT)
Yeah, a lot of those finishers from back in the day were bad. But what can you do, it's the late 80s/early 90's when it was a lot easier to work. Von Erich's finisher was called the Tornado Punch. And the Angle Slam isn't a bad finisher, it's not bad as long as Angle's working a back story. Plus, you're forgetting about the Bushwhacker's finisher, the Battering Ram. Jesus, that wasn't even funny.
dynamite kido - January 27, 2006 07:48 PM (GMT)
I would agree with everyone but the Angle Slam. It's not like i think the Angle slam is the best finisher ever, but I KNOW there are worse...
The Last Free Voice - January 27, 2006 07:52 PM (GMT)
How the Worm doesn't win this, I do not know.
Mad Dog - January 27, 2006 08:07 PM (GMT)
Because the Garvin Stomp is just that much worse.
eStragand - January 27, 2006 08:15 PM (GMT)
You're forgetting two famous stinkers: Crush's Head-vise, where he'd just squueze someguy's head. Then Sgt. Slaughter's short-lived finisher from late 1990: the Atomic Noogie. He'd just grind his kunckle into someone's grill.
Bushwhackers didn't use the Battering Ram as their full-time finisher. They used a double team slam/knee-smash thingie. They'd hit the battering ram almost every match, but only used their official double team slam thingie in jobber matches.
Also, the Garvin Stomp was NOT his finisher. It was one of his trademark moves, but I don't ever recall him hitting it, then immediately pinning someone. In his WWF days, Garvin used the piledriver and the Sharpshooter ("Reverse Figure Four"). It was a lame move, but nit his finisher...that's a myth that's been spread by smarks, as equally incorrect as "Turkey on a pole was the last AWA match"
Mad Dog - January 27, 2006 08:17 PM (GMT)
It was his finisher at some point in time. I think for awhile in the NWA. I know I've seen him pin someone after using it.
On the Battering Ram, I thought they used the double gutbuster right after hitting it.
dynamite kido - January 27, 2006 08:59 PM (GMT)
Garvin only beat jobbers with the stomp. Otherwise, he used the piledriver or figure four.
jamiegeist - January 27, 2006 09:02 PM (GMT)
For comparison's sake, my top ten:
10. Hulk Hogan's Legdrop
9. Billy Gunn's Fameasser
8. Johnny B Badd's Punch or something (didn't he just hit people with his left hand, and that knocked them out for some reason)
7. Warrior's Splash
6. Scott Steiner's Steiner Recliner
5. Mick Foley's Mr. Socko
4. Monty Brown's Pounce
3. Crush's Kona-Head Grip Thingy
2. The Rock's People's Elbow
1. Scotty 2 Hotty's The Worm
I was never too offended by the Iron Claw. Have someone squeeze the shit out of your temples sometime...it doesn't feel good.
eStragand - January 27, 2006 09:12 PM (GMT)
I remember Garvin using his "Hands of Stone" punch as a finisher in the NWA. A lame finisher in itself. I'm still unconvinced that the Stomp was a finisher. I'll shut up when I see some proof :)
Yeah, the gutbuster was the the name I was forgetting. In my world, "gutbuster" = "double team slam/knee-smash thingie".
I'm another Claw mark as well.
Mad Dog - January 27, 2006 09:17 PM (GMT)
I'd find proof for you but that would require me sitting through Garvin matches.
whitemilesdavis - January 27, 2006 09:17 PM (GMT)
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8. Belly to Belly Suplex: Shane Douglas is who this is mostly aimed at though Ken Shamrock can be called out too. It's a glorified hug ok. Guys shouldn't be jobbing to the hold. It was completely business exposing with Douglas in ECW. Just watch Barely Legal. |
Just to be clear, when Magnum TA used a Belly to Belly Suplex in NWA, it was an awesome finisher. It looked great, and the crowd totally bought it.
Mad Dog - January 27, 2006 09:20 PM (GMT)
Yeah, the Belly to Belly Suplex was mostly referring to Shane Douglas.
whitemilesdavis - January 27, 2006 09:41 PM (GMT)
What did Shane Douglas do great? In the ring, he reminds me alot of Jeff Jarrett. He was obviously more charismatic, but in the ring, just nothing special.
whitemilesdavis - January 27, 2006 09:46 PM (GMT)
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2. The Heart Punch: I can never truely express how happy it makes me that this move died out. The concept of the move is essentially that it's a specialized punch that stops the blood flow to the heart briefly. So you'd have a punch thrown and the other guy shake like a fish out of water. |
Rick Stone brought the heart punch back in NACW 3-4 years ago. He actually was able to get it over. But yeah, in general, it sucks.
Mad Dog - January 27, 2006 09:57 PM (GMT)
I sometimes wonder if the move would be better remembered if it hadn't been used by some of the worst workers out there.
Real F'n Show - January 27, 2006 11:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jamiegeist @ Jan 27 2006, 03:02 PM) |
| 6. Scott Steiner's Steiner Recliner |
I'll agree with this. Was it supposed to be a more "devastating" camel clutch or something? Because it was actually giving the opponent relieve, not to mention it looked weak as hell...
Scrooge McSuck - January 27, 2006 11:34 PM (GMT)
Outback Jacks "Boomerang" Clothesline needs to be mentioned. IT'S A FUCKING CLOTHESLINE! Anyone who jobs to a clothesline sucks, unless...
1. It's the Survivor Series and an elbow drop is enough to pin someone
2. It's a Lariat. LARIATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~!
Earthquake's vertical splash/butt-drop looked quite shitty, since he always did it too gentle. Maybe if he dropped his weight on the person now and then like Yokozuna would with his Banzai Drop, it would've been better.
dynamite kido - January 28, 2006 12:46 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ Jan 27 2006, 03:41 PM) |
| What did Shane Douglas do great? |
Swear like a motherfucker?
jamiegeist - January 28, 2006 03:14 AM (GMT)
I Was trying to think of an answer to that, and I'm pretty sure DK just gave the most accurate answer possible.
Real F'n Show - January 28, 2006 04:44 AM (GMT)
Actually, Douglas' facial expressions were great. He could also cut a damn good promo when needed, although that goes along with the swearing. Other than that, he was pretty mediocre/bland, and yes, the belly to belly is a horrible fucking finish.
eStragand - January 28, 2006 06:17 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Real F'n Show @ Jan 27 2006, 09:44 PM) |
| ...and yes, the belly to belly is a horrible fucking finish. |
Magnum TA used it fairly effectively as his finisher
Scrooge McSuck - January 28, 2006 06:29 AM (GMT)
Douglas using it in the 21st century is awful. In the 70's-80's, that was a credible move, just like Hogan's leg drop was.
prof_plague - January 28, 2006 08:00 AM (GMT)
I'll have to disagree with the Angle Slam. I actually prefer watching the Angle Slam over the Angle Lock lately.
One move that you might want to add to the list:
Eugene's finishers - He uses finishers that his favourite used to di, like the Rock Bottom, Stunner, et cetera. But when Eugene does them, they noever have the same feel or look to them, like they should, and the move loses a little credibility in this moment of time.
prof_plague - January 28, 2006 08:06 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Jan 28 2006, 12:29 AM) |
| Douglas using it in the 21st century is awful. In the 70's-80's, that was a credible move, just like Hogan's leg drop was. |
If Hogan's Leg Drop was bad, can we say that Savage's Elbow Drop was bad?
Scrooge McSuck - January 28, 2006 08:21 AM (GMT)
These days? It's not the greatest. I still think the leg drop is a good move, as long as it's not a 140 pound twig doing it.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - January 28, 2006 04:35 PM (GMT)
The Worm is hilarious, even if it sucks.
jamiegeist - January 28, 2006 05:04 PM (GMT)
Savage's elbow drop bad? No chance.
A top rope elbow drop should continue to be a devastating move, and I never once had a problem with it as a finisher.
dynamite kido - January 28, 2006 07:23 PM (GMT)
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Savage's elbow drop bad? No chance.
A top rope elbow drop should continue to be a devastating move, and I never once had a problem with it as a finisher. |
Ditto like a motherfucker....
whitemilesdavis - January 29, 2006 03:19 AM (GMT)
A couple of things..
It's not often that the Angle Slam is the actual Finisher. Normally it is a comeback "out of nowhere" type move, and it pops the crowd pretty good. I've seen it times where it looked great and times...not so much. Probably like The Pounce, where the guy taking the move is more important than the guy giving.
It was implied that the Belly-to-belly suplex was OK in the 80's simply because it was a different era. I disagree. Watch Magnum do the move. He makes definite contact and then just snaps the move. It looks painful. Sort of like Edge and Goldberg both using the spear. With Edge it looks stupid, yet with Goldberg, he looked like he had chopped the guy in half.
I liked Douglas using the Pittsburgh plunge.
prof_plague - January 30, 2006 04:19 AM (GMT)
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Savage's elbow drop bad? No chance.
A top rope elbow drop should continue to be a devastating move, and I never once had a problem with it as a finisher. |
Then why is Hogan's Leg Drop considered one of the worst finishers? Hogan's Leg Drop had a hard impact on it - especially when the move was dropped on the throat, much like Savage's elbow drop.