We're going to have to have two threads going at once since these PPVs are so close together.

Spoiler: Suckbag Blandy is gonna win. :(

OK - let's pretend we don't know the spoiler...

Who do you think will win? And who would you want to win?

Randy Orton will probably win. Who I want to win? Someone with zero chance in hell, so it's not worth mentioning.

Translation: Scrooge wants Kane to win.

Have I become that obvious?

Yes, now quit posting here and get back to that Coliseum Home Video you were watching.

I bet that spoiler was a fake so the WWE can try an internet kayfabe with the interenet fans.

The real spoiler: Kane wins. Why else do you think he went over Triple H and put in the elimination chamber. Granted, he'll lose Elimination Chamber, but that's so he can be just over enough to win the Royal Rumble, and then be the most over in the company, and win at the main event at WrestleMania.

There - I said it. Sorry to have listed so many spoilers.

:( (cries; watches Best of the WWF Vol. 19)

Ah yes, with the great Ventura/Garea debacle. I know it WELL.

I now have that on TWO Tapes. WOO! Tony Garea rules!

Of course I'd love to see Rey Rey, but I know there's a snowball's chance of that.

I don't know, Snowball's had a pretty strong push as of late

Touche.

HHH. I said it.

You just know Lashley will stay in the RR for a good chunk of time.

After just watching Orton vs Taker from Armageddon (very good match), with Taker it's a toss up whether will be facing Batista at the Rumble or whether he'll be in the Rumble match. That's if Batista even defends the title at the Rumble as he and Rey are tag champs and they have this thing with MNM.

So far, the Rumble Participants...

Raw:
1. Rob Van Dam
2. Chavo Guerrero (def. Rob Conway to "Qualify")
3. Shelton Benjamin (def. Val Venis)
4. Kane (def. Snitsky)


Hmm... none of them are winning. I still say Orton. :(

I actually expect Triple H to win the Rumble at this point. I see Edge dropping the title back to Cena at the Rumble, thus setting up the long rumored Triple H vs John Cena main event.

Triple H did declare himself as well on RAW.

And Lashley declared on Smackdown.

I didn't want to start a new thread, but PWinsider is reporting that Armageddon did at least 290,000 buys, making it the most successful Armageddon since 2002 and if I am not mistaken, the most successful Smackdown pay-per-view ever.

Vengeance 2003 might have done a bit better, but I remember hearing it did a disappointing buyrate at the time.

WHA?!?! God dammit, I had that pegged for like a 180,000 buy number.

On one hand, that buyrate doesn't surprise me since it had a Hell in a Cell main event. On the other hand, it was Armageddon... and Randy Orton was in the main event... and it was a Smackdown pay-per-view.

Oh, that was the Orton/Taker Hell in a Cell?

What else was on the card?

Batista and Rey against Kane and Big Show?

Orton/Taker
Tag Champs vs. Tag champs
Benoit vs. Booker Match #4(?)
JBL vs. Hardy

Uh... that was pretty much the only interesting stuff. The card was rounded out with zero build-up matches like Juvi/Kash, Mexicools/MNM, lashley/2 guys, and the Boogeyman I think made an appearence.

And it was a well built-up HIAC, also that was worth while getting.

Was just looking at a possible/confirmed list of Rumble entrants, and damn if this might not be one of the best Rumbles in history. From a talent standpoint, at the very least:

RAW
1. Masters
2. Carlito
3. chavo
4. RVD
5. Benjamin
6. Kane
7. Triple H
8. Big Show
9. HBK ("You get #1, cause I'm screeeeewing you". Lame)
10. Flair
11. Helms
12. Striker
13. Cade
14. Murdoch
15. Vis

Smackdown
1. Rey
2. JBL
3. Matt Hardy
4. Orton
5. Benoit
6. Mercury
7. Nitro
8. Finlay
9. Boogeyman (This should be fun)
10. Booker T (could see him screwing around the ring before a quick elim)
11. Hardcore Holly
12. Lashley
13. Psicosis
14. Crazy
15. Orlando Jordan

I mean, thats pretty good. Especially on the RAW side. I think it could be a real entertaining rumble match this year. And an undercard of Angle/Henry, Cena/Edge, and Boogeyman/JBL won't hurt either. I sure wouldn't mind seeing Flair defend the title either, and fucking losing it.

Instead of Flair defending the IC strap I can see Kane and Show defending the tag titles against Carlito and Masters. If not that match but than yeah he can defend it against either Carlito or Masters. And if that's the Rumble match than it's being booked well.

I'm gonna call a final 4 of Rey, Benoit, Orton, and Triple H. Just for fun.

Triple H and Orton can form a mini-alliance. Of course, someone (or both) are getting turned on in that thing.

Benoit would go, and then Orton when Triple H turns on him. Rey eliminates Triple H for the win. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!. No...really...i'm hoping for this.

I would kill to see Rey win the title.

I'm really looking forward to the Rumble, as it's typically my favorite.

Me too. Rumble is definitely my favorite PPV. Just wish they would build it properly.

WWE.com just posted an announcement updating the list of Rumble participants:

Here's a list of all announced Royal Rumble Match participants:

RAW SUPERSTARS

1) Rob Van Dam

2) Big Show

3) Kane

4) Shawn Michaels

5) Triple H

6) Chris Masters

7) Carlito

8) Trevor Murdoch

9) Shelton Benjamin

10) Viscera

11) Chavo Guerrero


SMACKDOWN SUPERSTARS

1) Chris Benoit

2) Rey Mysterio

3) Randy Orton

4) Matt Hardy

5) Orlando Jordan

6) Lashley

7) Sylvan

8) Road Warrior Animal

9) Johnny Nitro

10) Joey Mercury

11) Simon Dean

They better do some cool Event Center thing where they run down the participants tonight. Fags.

With a couple exceptions (Rey, Benoit), that's a pretty low quality Smackdown field so far.

WWE.com changed the Rumble participants again. I don't care enough to go look, cause it'll change in a few hours when they think of something else.

Needs more Finlay. I guess there's four more spots left, though.

Which is stupid that their "kayfabe" wwe.com website is showing a list of rumble participants, a list that isn't full, when they just ran a storyline to see who would get the "final spot" in the rumble on RAW.

Of course the fact that two announcers were fighting over it really makes you wanna disregard logic altogether....

Or the fact that one of the announcers said "Who did you beat? You have to qualify for the Rumble".....right....

I must have missed that. I'm guessing fucking Coach is in the Rumble, then?

Yes, he beat Lawler for a spot on Raw thanks to the Homo-Squad.

Somewhere, Val Venis sheds a tear.

*head explodes