This show screams bland at me. I'm not a fan of 4 ways and they're wasting a lot of starpower this time. Whitmer also does nothing for me as a wrestler. He's the definition of bland indy guy. KENTA/Ki...... blah. Danielson/Marufuji will be ok but I don't see them meshing and why give Marufuji a title shot? Why not import Daniels or Rave into there?

Styles/Shelley and the tag title match look decent enough though.

Normally I agree with your ROH card opinions MD...........not this time though. That show looks fucking swank to me.

The card looks solid. I'm looking foward to KENTA vs Low Ki a little, and Danielson vs Marufuji, the 4 way and Styles vs Shelley all look decent too.

Whitmer could actually improve some, though. He's taking Submission wrestling classes at Jorge Gurgel & Rich Franklin's MMA Academy. That could actually make him worse, though.

Do you think Sal Rinauro and Tony Mamaluke will keep the tag titles, or do you think Generation Next: Strong and Aries will take the titles?

I would hope that Aries and Strong win the belts.

I think the two TNA guys are not going to be holding any gold in ROH in the near future.

They've gotta break that at some point. They'll be running out of guys to put belts on.

I think Rinauro and Mamaluke will keep the tag titles, but I could see Claudio winning the pure title.

Definately looks great to me on paper.

As a "just because" sort of thing? Or any main reason?

I would go with "The ROHbots jerk off to Claudio matches".

Don't get the love for Claudio at all.......

or Tony Mamaluke for that matter. Ok jobber but that's it.

I haven't seen them wrestle so I really don't have an opinion.

Mamaluke's ok if he has a really good worker to reign him in. He's got no transition offense so he's either using rest holds or hitting big spots.

I'm actually interested in the Rave/ Milano match. I like both of their styles, though Milano far more than Rave.

I think Rave's the first wrestler I've ever seen go from being completely overlooked and underrated to be completely overhyped and overrated.

That's probably happened to a lot of RoH wrestlers. And I know that sometime down the line, people will probably say the same thing about wrestlers like Low Ki, Homicide, Colt Cabana, Jay Lethal, Austin Aries, et cetera.

I think the total opposite. I thought he was horribly overrated, but I thought he's developed into a pretty solid heel who held his own in the last year against pretty good competition.

If Jimmy Rave never wrestled again, I wouldn't mind a bit.

The most entertainment I've got from a Jimmy Rave match came from Prince Nana.

Results from DVDVR

Sounds like a solid show...............besides the bullshit with the students.

The student matches are just for the audience, they're not on the DVDs - so nothing offensive in the long run.

True................until you are at a live show and the fans are turning on them before your very eyes.

I want to personally choke the shit out of those morons that were chating "MOTY" and "5 stars" after the main event.

In all fairness................the match was probably pretty swank. Although I see your point. Keep in mind the awesomeness of KENTA...............and how far that means the ROHbots will go to cement that fact.

I admit the match sounds good but pretensious and wrestling don't mix and those chants definately cross into the "you need your ass kicked" category. I have to be honest though, RoH crowds have ruined more than one match for me. The chanting there has gotten counter-productive and I think it's mostly the fans trying to get themselves over as "best in wrestling." If Kobashi or KENTA comes over, it's ok to just react like people did at Mania 18.

Though some of the guys at other boards are hilarious. They were talking about RoH fans are the only ones that appreciate a good technical match. I honestly haven't seen a show where the fans didn't sit on their hands for the really deeper matches. It almost never fails.

It's also funny that the same RoHbots whine and whine about TNA crowds which are nowhere near that bad.

Hello ROHbots, meet the people of Japan.

I find it laughable because there are plenty of averaged intelligence rednecks from the 60s/70s/80s that probably appreciate a technical wrestling match more than any of the RoHbots do. AWA and NWA fans especially.

As much as I love to be involved in a crowd, people usually get a bit overexcited and trigger happy with the chants these days.

My least favorite is "This is Awesome" followed by a usually undeserving "Holy Shit" chant

Don't forget that fucking homo "You're both awesome" chant for AJ and Daniels at BFG...

Let's not bring the TNA crowd into this

TNA fans suck, ROH fans are annoying. Argument settled. :D If I have to watch a show with the mute button on, I won't even bother.

I have to do that with TNA, but it's for more than the fans.

I don't see why people care so much about idiot fans. I've never seen a match where the fans actually detract from the match in the ring. Be it ROH, TNA or WWE...

You see, the fans are part of the flow of the match. If they really are into the match, they help gauge the ebb and tide of the pacing. If the fans are too into themselves, or don't care, they can really fuck up how you perceive the match. Same goes for commentators, too. Thus my distaste for TNA

I've never had the fans ruin a match for me. The announcers, yes.

A hot crowd is a good thing (see: Hogan/Rock. That much would've been balls if it were dead, or if the crowd did nothing but chant). I find constant chanting during every match obnoxious and annoying.

I find consistent chanting annoying because it shows the crowd doesn't care about the match, but what they're chanting. So I have a harder time getting into the match when I know the crowd there doesn't care.

RoH announcers are awful. Please stop talking about a match as a MOTYC during the match.

They remind me of JR in the Raw vs. SD game, he always says "This has to be a five star classic!", and I'm playing a diva elimination chamber.