WOW, this sounds like one of the worst ROH's in sometime?

That's ROH for you. Have a couple of good shows, then go down the drain for a while. This card looks like a one match wonder. Joe is becoming more and more like Taz after he lost the ECW World title, loses to everyone.

eh... 50-50. Sounds like fun live, but not something I'd buy on DVD

I'll just try to download the No DQ match online.

I think matches 4-8 look good. I've enjoyed Nigel and Joes work, and Ki vs. Cabana was something I was looking foreward to. The No DQ match sounds off the charts, and Danielson vs. Corino sounds like a good old school title match.

Somewhat off the topic, I know Aries uses the 450, but what is his other finisher?

Brainbuster beat Joe, so that's one.He also uses a Rings of Saturn type move which is wittily named the "Rings of Aries".

He hasn't used the Rings of Aries in awhile though, has he?

Brainbuster usually sets up the 450, but has sometimes won him matches as well.

He beat Joe with the 450, which followed the BRAINBUSTAH~!

He might not use it often. I just remember him winning with it WAAAAY back at 6/12/04, which doesn't seem so long ago to me, cuz I was there live.

They're really shooting themselves in the foot with Joe though. They put him up against Kobashi one week and the next he's losing to fucking Nigel. I like Nigel and all, but Joe really should be above him at this point. Not to mention that I fucking HATE the main two matches of this show. I don't want to sound like a dick, but I think Cabana/Low-Ki would be a mess. I just don't see those two matching up whatsoever.

Also, shouldn't we mention this. WHY THE FUCK IS CORINO GETTING A TITLE SHOT? I mean, I know he has tons of dick riders and fanboys..........but is that enough of a reason to throw him in the main event for an ROH title shot?

Yes.

You've got to be shitting me here?

Actually, Corino was storyline owed at title shot for some reason or another. Originally it was gonna be HIM against Joe at teh infamous Joe Punk II show, but he had to pull out. So he "cashed in" his title shot.

I'm not personally saying I want to see him in a title match, but in the indies, if you're loved, you get title shots. I personally think Corino is talented on the mic, but lacks wrestling skill.

If you think about it, he IS the AWA champion. So that could theoretically hold some weight. He could have a clause that says he has to be so high on the card or something similar.



































Ok, I'm a Corino mark, and I've still got nothing.

Dude, this isn't aimed at you................but fuck that shit.

I'm sick of how the ROH fanboys hate on perfectly good workers, yet it's acceptable when Corino comes and goes as he pleases and it's ok................because they all fucking love his terrible ass. UGH.

Whats the infamous Punk/Joe II show? And isn't "Infamous" a bad thing?

I was wondering the same thing. That match was freaking spectacular. The undercard wasn't the best I've seen ROH do, but it was still a fun show.

What match was spectacular? The resthold match of the Year? See C.M. Punk work in 5000 versions of headlocks to stall for time and switch between working on the arm and neck for 30 minutes with zero substance to any of it!


There, I made my "piss the entire board off" comment of the week.

Oh boy. Just wait until the Last Free Voice sees this.

In terms of indies, Corino is a draw, like him or not. When any indy brings Corino in, they aren't bringing him in as a random worker, but rather to attract his fanbase. Therefore, it wouldn't make sense to have him curtain jerking, when that's only gonna piss off his fans, whom you were hoping to attract. You can argue that he should never be booked, but the reason he is in the main event is fairly obvious.

http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/thread.php?fo...fdade2f5e1b37c5

If that is the same C Man who posted at TSM, he has no credibility with me.

I don't remember anyone by that name on TSM, and screw you. I trust the fate of all indy reviews in his gorilla hands.

Okay, probably not the same guy.

You damn right... oh yeah, and out own ST Strickler was making fun of the match too. Get him! (he posts as Sam)

:lol: For some reason, that made me laugh.

Eh, you guys are allowed to not like the match, but dammit, I still love it.

Just to chime in on that match really quick....I thought the second match was very good, and not as you described it at all, Scrooge. If you were describing the first one, I could see where you are coming from, but the second was really enjoyable in my view. Do you like any hour long matches?

Steamboat/Flair from Clash VI was great, but can it count even though it only clocks in at 50-51 minutes and was 2-of-3 falls? :) Other than that and several Rumble matches, I haven't seen many hour long matches.

Because I try to put the heat on someone else? Just call me Jimmy the Squealer.

Yeah, actually I have the World Title Classic match on my computer and I've never quite been able to sit through it. This is partly because I have a short attention span when it comes to watching things online, but the other part was that it was too slow. I didn't have that problem watching Joe/Punk II one bit.

Dynamite Kido, don't take me wrong dude. I'm not a mark for Corino at all.

I meant Famous. Sorry. I've got a headcold from hell and it hurts to blink, so thinking is generally out of the question. Personally, I love all three Joe Punk matches, for different reasons.I think the third is the best though, just because it pays everything off without having a ton of resting and stalling for time, which it could have had due to it being no time limit.

I've only seen the first two. I like the first one fine, but I can understand the criticism of it.

I love the first one because I was there live and it was such a special feeling. The second one I just find totally awesome, but a little tedious at points. The third one is pure awesomeness.

Were you ever visible on the tape?

Not really. I was on the very top bleacher opposite camera, all the way to the left. You'd catch me if they zoomed out after a match or something. I SHOULD be all over Redemption, as I got hit in the head with the fucking roaming camera durning the Ki/Leathal brawl. Nice cut over my eye.

Plague and I have a good chance at being visible on the Survival of the Fittest dvd. I'm pretty sure you can spot me during a "Fuck you, Nana" chant and when Samoa Joe nearly slips onto the crowd.

It's all good dude. Even if you were, you're allowed to be................WMD is.

No problem with him Main Eventing.........just getting a title shot.