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Scrooge McSuck - October 10, 2005 02:13 AM (GMT)
Unless some miracle occurs, we are looking at the following...

AL Game 1 (Tuesday): Los Angeles Angels/New York Yankees @ Chicago White Sox

NL Game 1 (Wednesday): Houston Astros @ St. Louis Cardinals

This guarantees us a new World Series Champion, by that I mean Boston won't win. I'm pulling for Chicago/Houston, but my luck sucks, so it's Angels/Cards.


EDIT: That's my luck... Yankees (thankfully) come from behind in Game 4 to force Game 5 in Los Angeles of anahiem California United states and maybe Puerto Rico.

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 10, 2005 05:52 AM (GMT)
The hell with the Asstros.

Scrooge McSuck - October 10, 2005 06:53 AM (GMT)
In your dreams... Oswalt-Pettitte-Clemens are going to mop the floor with Fluke Carpenter and the rest of the Cardinals rotation.

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 10, 2005 03:18 PM (GMT)
The problem is that those three can't mop the floor with our pitchers....they have to mop the floor with our hitters. And if you compare those two lineups....it's not even close.

Scrooge McSuck - October 10, 2005 08:53 PM (GMT)
Clemens and Pettitte own the top 2 ERA's in the NL, and Oswalt still brings in with a #8 spot. Good luck getting runs. The Astros just need to get run support, which has been their problem all season, especially for Clemens.

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 10, 2005 09:20 PM (GMT)
The Cardinals haven't had too much of a problem hitting Houston pitching all year....I'm confused as to why they would now.

Scrooge McSuck - October 11, 2005 03:40 AM (GMT)
OK, NOW it's official, as everyone expected.

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 11, 2005 04:55 AM (GMT)
I think, despite the odds being relatively well stacked against them, that the Angels win this.

Scrooge McSuck - October 11, 2005 05:02 AM (GMT)
Odds against them? Maybe against the Cardinals, but the Angels are the odds on favorite against Chicago I think.

Personal bias: Astros/White Sox World Series.
Realistic Picks: Cardinals/Angels

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 11, 2005 06:03 AM (GMT)
Well, the Angels are tired, Colon is hurt now, Washburn is sick, and Chicago is fresh and has their rotation set up all pretty and nice. Oh, and Chicago has home field, for what that's worth. So I don't think it's unfair to say the Angels are going to have some trouble...but I think they win.


Angels/ Cardinals World Series, I think.

Scrooge McSuck - October 11, 2005 06:18 AM (GMT)
Perhaps the White Sox are too rested. :)

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 11, 2005 06:25 AM (GMT)
Good point.

Scrooge McSuck - October 11, 2005 06:27 AM (GMT)
Wait... I'm thinking of the Cardinals. They are going to have a awful game 1 I bet. They've had way too much time to relax, and when playing Padres, they hardly broke a sweat.

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 11, 2005 06:29 AM (GMT)
It's possible that they could have a bad first game, but I like their chances with Carpenter going.

Scrooge McSuck - October 11, 2005 06:30 AM (GMT)
I like the Astros chances with Pettitte going. :) (flips you off)

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 11, 2005 06:32 AM (GMT)
Cheering for the Astros and the Yankees....someone's been drinking the Kool-Aid.

Scrooge McSuck - October 11, 2005 06:35 AM (GMT)
I'm a Pettitte and Clemens fan. Not Astros. :)

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 11, 2005 06:35 AM (GMT)
That's fair. I really like Pettite, as a pitcher and a person. I admire Clemens for what he's done over his career, but I can't say I like him.

Scrooge McSuck - October 11, 2005 06:37 AM (GMT)
I'm a Pettitte fan because of his run in New York from 1995-2003, and he was easily one of our aces (and homegrown). Clemens mainly for his Yankee run as well, but he's Roger friggin Clemens too. He's the modern day Nolan Ryan... well, in the "past their primes" department now.

eStragand - October 11, 2005 04:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Oct 11 2005, 12:37 AM)
He's the modern day Nolan Ryan... well, in the "past their primes" department now.

Not until he beats the crap out of Robin Ventura.

Or, I'll settle for another third baseman who's about 20 years younger than him.

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 11, 2005 05:53 PM (GMT)
I don't understand how A-Rod's ghost was the only thing that showed up for that series. For the highest paid man in sports, he sure does fuck up a lot.

Scrooge McSuck - October 11, 2005 11:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (eStragand @ Oct 11 2005, 12:27 PM)
QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Oct 11 2005, 12:37 AM)
He's the modern day Nolan Ryan... well, in the "past their primes" department now.

Not until he beats the crap out of Robin Ventura.

Explain... I keep hearing this comment, but never any reason why Ryan did it. Ventura think he can take a man older than his daddy or something?

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 11, 2005 11:58 PM (GMT)
Ryan hit Ventura with a pitch. Ventura had some words for Ryan, and Ryan had two words that rhymed with "duck shoe", as far as I can tell. So Ventura charge the mound and Ryan took his glove off. He then put Ventura in a headlock and proceeded to pummel him. Aside from Vince Coleman getting rolled up in the tarp machine and Pedro Borbon tearing a Mets hat to pieces with his teeth, this is probably the best bizarre baseball moment of all time.


And if you don't know, now you know.

Scrooge McSuck - October 12, 2005 12:13 AM (GMT)
God damn, I wish I saw this. What season was this? 1993?

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 12, 2005 12:23 AM (GMT)
I can't for the life of me remember. I'll try to find out.

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 12, 2005 01:36 AM (GMT)
Well....Angels are winning so far.

Scrooge McSuck - October 12, 2005 10:56 AM (GMT)
Credit: Wikipedia.com

Before the 1993 season, Ryan announced his retirement, effective at the end of that season. His seemingly bionic arm finally gave out in Seattle on September 22, 1993, when he tore a tendon, ending his career two starts prematurely.

However, on August 4, just before the end, Ryan confirmed his reputation as a strong, competitive Texan in one bizarre moment. He had just hit Robin Ventura of the Chicago White Sox with a slow moving curveball. The normally unflappable Ventura angrily charged the pitching mound in order to fight Ryan, who was twenty years his senior. Ryan famously defended himself, perhaps better than any other known pitcher in a similar situation. The 46-year-old Ryan – a rancher in the offseason and highly dedicated to workouts during the season – promptly subdued the 26-year-old Ventura in a headlock with his left arm, pummelling Ventura's head with his right fist six times before catcher Ivan Rodriguez was able to pull Ventura away from Ryan. Videos of the confrontation were played on sports highlight reels that evening throughout the country. Ryan was widely credited as coming out ahead in the fight, planting those "noogies" on Ventura.

eStragand - October 12, 2005 05:25 PM (GMT)
August 4, 1993 was the Ventura/Ryan bout. Even funnier was the fact that Ryan was 46 and in the final weeks of his "farewell tour" season. Ventura charged the mound, but Ryan put him in a headlock and punched him in the face about 5 or 6 times. Ventura was about 25 at the time and it was hilarious to see an "old man" beat the crap out of him.

A few days later, a funny sports editorial cartoon had Ryan with a stick in one hand and Ventura in the other, heading out behind a woodshed.

Ventura was ribbed mercilessly for years. Most notably on the Jim Rome show, where he was known as "Speedbag" from 93 to 2001. There's a fancy "memorablia" store in an upscale mall out here...they have a giant framed picture of the pummeling, auotgraphed by Ryan.

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 12, 2005 11:41 PM (GMT)
Get ready for CLS, bitches!

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 13, 2005 04:20 AM (GMT)
The hell with the Astros.



But man, that was an awful call in the Angels game.

Scrooge McSuck - October 13, 2005 09:11 AM (GMT)
Go White Sox! :P What call, I missed the game thanks to Houston/St. Louis being on at the same time... damn Pet it.

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 13, 2005 04:41 PM (GMT)
Watch ESPN and you'll see it.

It gave me the worst flashbacks to Denkinger.

Scrooge McSuck - October 13, 2005 11:54 PM (GMT)
Interesting... very interesting. Wow, that's gonna be remembered for years to come.

Mad Dog - October 13, 2005 11:55 PM (GMT)
All the umps at last night's game should be fired.

Scrooge McSuck - October 13, 2005 11:59 PM (GMT)
I demand instant replay in baseball. :P

Mad Dog - October 14, 2005 12:29 AM (GMT)
This is the worst case of umps covering for each other I've ever seen. There's no way he wasn't making an out motion. They're all lying sacks of shit for saying otherwise. Have some balls and call the guy back when he runs to first.

Scrooge McSuck - October 14, 2005 12:30 AM (GMT)
The ball did hit the ground though, at least on freeze frame. Przynzxnski (or whatever) was rightfully safe. Can't help the home plate umpire is a dumb douche.

Mad Dog - October 14, 2005 02:35 PM (GMT)
An umpire just can't change his mind mid-play though. Had AJ just walked to the dugout the umpire would've just let the 9th end.

Scrooge McSuck - October 17, 2005 03:53 PM (GMT)
Take that Angels! WOOO! 4 straight complete games by the White Sox starters (and Contreras went 8.1 in Game #1) bring them to the World Series for the first time in 46 seasons.

1 more game Houston and the St. Louis Crybabies (LaRuss arguing over balls and strikes and Edmonds, winner of this years Academy Award for over acting 3 pitches that didn't even come close to him) are history.

TheGreatWhiteChoate - October 17, 2005 09:30 PM (GMT)
Whiny Edmonds? Were you watching the same game I did? He wasn't whining because the ball came close to him, he was calling out the ump for calling a ridiculously high ball a strike. That ump fucking sucked so bad. I've never been so pissed watching a game before.

That being said, they are doing this to themselves. They've completely underplayed, and I'm not happy. But the hell with the Asstros....the White Sox can take them.




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