Title: What a bunch of fucking assholes
Description: LFV is going to spazzzzzzzz
dynamite kido - September 15, 2005 08:56 PM (GMT)
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In the latest issue of the Observer, it was reported CM Punk was buried by HHH, Hayes, and HBK after his last Heat match. The line on him was he didn't know how to get over and that the way he wrestles is like he's doing a simulated wrestling match and not working a wrestling match.
Meltz the goes on to state his opinion on the matter, which is that no matter what he did, being being an unknown who isn't physically impressive by their standard going out cold, he wasn't going to get a reaction and the all knowing types were going to say that. The truth is, there is an entirely different standard and style of working and getting over before 500 in a small room and 5,000 in a 15,000 seat arean and like everything else, it does have to be learned. But it's a complete joke when people pick on people as not being able to work who have learned to be good at small room just because they can't walk into the big room and instantly get over.
Meltz then says that even from a WWE standard of working, Punk was going to have his weaknesses that would show up when he got there, he is good enough where he would overcome them with experience. Having what they consider a paper reputation as a great worker (if he hasn't proven to be a great worker in WWE rings, then he's inherently unable to work in some people's eyes) made criticisms of his work pretty much a lock before he even locked up. Not going over on a debut after never being on WWE TV is almosta guaranteed lock. An unknown, no matter how talented, doesn't get over to the WWE audience unless they do an over the top gimmick because that's an audience there to see stars.
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WTF? What a bunch of horseshit.
Scrooge McSuck - September 15, 2005 08:59 PM (GMT)
I'll say it again...
Shawn Michaels has never changed. He's still the jerkoff asshole he's always been. First the Hogan reports where he copped an attitude because he had to job, now he's burying a guy who's often worked on shows with crowds of 400-1,000 people.
HHH has always been a dick, and I don't think anyone is surprised.
SamoaRowe - September 15, 2005 09:01 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Sep 15 2005, 02:59 PM) |
I'll say it again...
Shawn Michaels has never changed. He's still the jerkoff asshole he's always been. First the Hogan reports where he copped an attitude because he had to job, now he's burying a guy who's often worked on shows with crowds of 400-1,000 people. |
400 - 1,000 people? It's my understanding that some WWE house shows do about that type of business these days. Perhaps they should give CM Punk some credit for becoming such a great Indy draw without having four hours of cable tv time to promote himself.
Real F'n Show - September 15, 2005 09:06 PM (GMT)
I really don't want to comment on this, it's so stupid. Put Punk on Smackdown.
Mad Dog - September 15, 2005 09:06 PM (GMT)
Those were considered pretty good shows by Michaels title runs in the 90s.
This is the reason the WWF is going to eventually die when Vince does. Triple H will run the company into the ground with his buddies.
I really hate this company with each passing day. The petty bullshit in such a large company is awful. For all the complaints TNA gets they at least treat their workers right and let them do their thing in the ring.
Scrooge McSuck - September 15, 2005 09:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Real F'n Show @ Sep 15 2005, 05:06 PM) |
| I really don't want to comment on this, it's so stupid. Put Punk on Smackdown. |
You would think 2 guys pushing 40 and another guy pushing 50 would be more mature than shitting on a guy for 1 match.
dynamite kido - September 15, 2005 09:23 PM (GMT)
I'm not Punk's biggest defender or anything, but I wonder what they would say about him if they saw Joe/Punk II?
Oh wait, they would probably be too busy cracking jokes about the ROH attendance instead of watching the match.
Fucking idiots.
By the way Scrooge, I agree with you on Michaels. I think he's great right now, but personally the guys always been somewhat of an asshole. That's the reason he'll never be on any of my lists as the greatest ever...........his fucking bitch ass attitude that he's had forever.
SamoaRowe - September 15, 2005 09:27 PM (GMT)
I agree with the Shawn Michaels sentiments. The guy has been a tremendous in-ring performer, but from what I've heard of him in real life, the guy is a fucking asshole.
Whenever he finally retires, he will make a great nomination for the HOF. I can't wait to see the argument on that one.
Scrooge McSuck - September 15, 2005 09:29 PM (GMT)
Shawn retire? HA! He only kept away from in-ring perfoming for 5 years because he was forced into retirement. The guy will wrestle until he's crippled.
SamoaRowe - September 15, 2005 09:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Sep 15 2005, 03:29 PM) |
| Shawn retire? HA! He only kept away from in-ring perfoming for 5 years because he was forced into retirement. The guy will wrestle until he's crippled. |
He'll be the first corpse to ever win the WWE Championship.
Either way, one of these days something will happen that will prevent him from wrestling full-time or even part-time again. Since he's been back, he has taken time off several times due to injury and the first six months or so that he was around he only wrestled a handful of times to keep his back healthy.
Scrooge McSuck - September 15, 2005 09:34 PM (GMT)
His first 5 months back he wrestled 4 times, not counting being the Rumble match for 50 seconds. 2 v. HHH, 1 v. RVD, and the Elimination Chamber (only wrestled the last 10 minutes though).
The Last Free Voice - September 15, 2005 10:25 PM (GMT)
I already lost it on another board, sorry I didn't save any spleen for here. But I was pissed. Now I'm just starting to think I may get to see Punker back in ROH in the future.
Fuck HHH.
Scrooge McSuck - September 15, 2005 10:27 PM (GMT)
Copy and Paste your rants. It would add excitement to the topic.
The Last Free Voice - September 15, 2005 10:43 PM (GMT)
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| FUCKING FUCKERS! THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT! PUNK CAN OUT WORK ANY OF THEM RIGHT NOW! People wonder why no one on the IWC gives a shit about WWE, well here's a perfect fucking example. People like to compare TNA to WCW, well I think this is more WCWish than anything! New, young, talented guys getting fucked over due to a couple of douchebags with political connections. I'm glad I don't have time to watch the pile of shit they put out on Mondays anymore, because fuck them, seriously. Punk's a star in the making, and they're too concerned about a couple of fucking premaddonna's to notice. In conclusion: FUCK.WWE. |
Scrooge McSuck - September 15, 2005 10:44 PM (GMT)
Marry me, LFV. :wub::wub::wub:
The Last Free Voice - September 15, 2005 10:50 PM (GMT)
.......
::tags in WMD:: YOU TAKE HIM!
Big F'N Swigg - September 16, 2005 12:15 AM (GMT)
LFV, you bring up the interesting point that WWE has become more like the WCW it mocks in it's revisionist history. You have HHH, HBK, Taker, etc. playing the old guys who won't give young guys a shot. You have Hollywood writers writing wrestling. You have Eric Bischoff. You have layoffs by phone to people more talented than the people getting major pushes. When WWE absorbed WCW, they also absorbed their problems
The Last Free Voice - September 16, 2005 12:16 AM (GMT)
You mean I had a legit point? Alert the media.
Scrooge McSuck - September 16, 2005 12:16 AM (GMT)
I award LFV the title of "Smartest Person of the Board" until the next argument comes and he makes an ass out of himself. :P
Big F'N Swigg - September 16, 2005 12:18 AM (GMT)
I've actually been thinking about that a lot lately. The fact that WWE has absorbed all the shit that burned WCW to the ground.
Big F'N Swigg - September 16, 2005 12:45 AM (GMT)
According to PWInsider, Punk may have had his nose broken and ear damage after a stiff slap at the OVW tapings
Scrooge McSuck - September 16, 2005 12:52 AM (GMT)
How do you damage someones ear and break their nose with a slap? You had to do an open hand punch to cause that much damage.
The Last Free Voice - September 16, 2005 12:52 AM (GMT)
Oh fuck no. Who the fuck did it? That is bullshit behavior. WWE won't do anything about it, either. Stupid fucks.
Big F'N Swigg - September 16, 2005 01:11 AM (GMT)
I'd say it was all because he had to wrestle with your head up his ass, LFV
The Last Free Voice - September 16, 2005 01:13 AM (GMT)
I'm on his cock, not up his ass.
I mean...
Scrooge McSuck - September 16, 2005 01:15 AM (GMT)
You're on his cock while your tongue is in his ass.
The Last Free Voice - September 16, 2005 01:24 AM (GMT)
This coming from the guy who wanted to marry me?
Scrooge McSuck - September 16, 2005 01:26 AM (GMT)
I was only kidding, but not really.
The Last Free Voice - September 16, 2005 01:31 AM (GMT)
Uh-huh. At least I'm just emo. you're an emo-fag. Emo-fag.
Scrooge McSuck - September 16, 2005 01:32 AM (GMT)
But you just admited to being on Punks cock, so you're a Emo-in-denial-fag.
dynamite kido - September 16, 2005 01:38 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Sep 15 2005, 07:32 PM) |
| But you just admited to being on Punks cock, so you're a Emo-in-denial-fag. |
The winner and new heavyweight champion.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - September 16, 2005 01:43 AM (GMT)
I love how every topic changes into a shouting match between LFV and Scrooge.
Greatest. Feud. Ever.
Scrooge McSuck - September 16, 2005 01:46 AM (GMT)
Yeah, this is the greatest feud since white bread no sold strawberry spread.
TheGreatWhiteChoate - September 16, 2005 01:48 AM (GMT)
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Scrooge McSuck Posted on Sep 15 2005, 09:46 PM Yeah, this is the greatest feud since white bread no sold strawberry spread.
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That's just because he got distracted by peanut butter.
Mad Dog - September 16, 2005 05:55 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrooge McSuck @ Sep 15 2005, 08:52 PM) |
| How do you damage someones ear and break their nose with a slap? You had to do an open hand punch to cause that much damage. |
It's easier to do then you think. Ears damage easily and a palm to the nose could break it easily.
Scrooge McSuck - September 16, 2005 05:59 AM (GMT)
I've been slapped in the face plenty of times. Slaps shouldn't do more damage than make a cheek pink. I can understand the ear thing, but that still needs a reasonable amount of force put into it.
Mad Dog - September 16, 2005 06:05 AM (GMT)
People have permanently lost hearing from a hard slap to the face. It happens.
Scrooge McSuck - September 16, 2005 06:22 AM (GMT)
Sounds reasonable, but I'll stay with my opinion that it was a stiff pie facing.
The Last Free Voice - September 17, 2005 04:52 PM (GMT)
I'd like to announce that I'm going to Europe for the winter because I jsut got totally owned by Scrooge of all people. See ya in six months.
Scrooge McSuck - September 17, 2005 05:23 PM (GMT)
I was due, just like whenever Joe Girardi hit a home run. All 9 in his 14 year career. :P